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I'm assuming there is no inhibitor chip because Finn disobeys orders.

Why don't they have them anymore and what reason would they have removing them? It seems like a really bad move.

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    I have no canon answer, but a guess: inhibitor chips inhibit. No surprise. They may find that having soldiers who are willing to think for themselves is more valuable than the risk. I do note the storm troopers seem to hit more things now ^_^ – Cort Ammon Dec 22 '15 at 17:33
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    Why would you assume they have inhibitor chips? What previous movie mentions Stormtroopers having inhibitor chips? – TylerH Dec 22 '15 at 17:35
  • @TylerH You are correct I guess it is only the clone storm troopers scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/99597/… So I am not really sure. They look similar that is why! Questions still stands as is. Why get rid of them? – William Dec 22 '15 at 17:38
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    The Clone Trooper Inhibitor Chips were installed while they were still the equivalent of in-utero. First Order troopers are stolen from their families in youth. It's too late at that point. Let me see if I can find some canon... – Nate Dec 22 '15 at 17:42
  • In fairness, their conditioning techniques seem have an unbelievably high success rate; maybe higher than the inhibitor chips(I've seen people post about clones that dis-obeyed)...we hear allusions to re-conditioning, but there is only one confirmed desertion AFAIK(granted, it was a REALLY catastrophic desertion)...that's droid-level obedience – VapedCrusader Dec 22 '15 at 18:06
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Jason's answer is basically right, but he's more right that he's guessing.

  • There is actually a power struggle going on between two competing philosophies of how to get obedient soldiers for the empire. We can source the details from Visual Dictionry as well as film/novelization.

    1. On one hand, we have General Hux, whose father developed techniques for indoctrination while running Imperial academy (source: Visual Dictionary and below quote from novelization).

      Ren paused to consider the general’s words. “A simple enough task, or so it would seem. Find one droid. Just how capable are your soldiers, General?”
      Hux turned away from the trooper’s holofile. He respected Ren and his abilities, but he was not afraid of him. One did not rise to the rank of general in the forces of the First Order by showing fear.
      “I won’t have you questioning my methods.”
      “What methods would those be, General? Those that allow a single common trooper to free an important prisoner from confinement, escort him to an operating hangar, and assist him in fighting his way to freedom? What methods teach such expertise? Obviously, at least some of your troops are skilled at high treason. Perhaps Leader Snoke should consider using an army of clones.”
      It was with great difficulty that Hux restrained himself. “My men receive exceptional instruction. They are programmed from birth to be loyal to one another, to their officers, and to the Order. The appearance of a single abnormality does not give you the right to question methods that have been refined through long—”

    2. On the other, there are those who oppose the idea and would rather use "more obedient" clones (like Kylo Ren - though there's a chance he's just taking a contrary position because as usual, he's acting like a spoiled teenage Anakin; and not actually taking a principled thought out stand)

  • The above info also clearly confirms that Finn and the rest of First Order stormtroopers are NOT clones; on top of Jason's excellent points proving that earlier.

  • I disliked that scene, it's the only thing I noticed that directly references the prequels. And although I don't hate the prequels like most people, I had hoped they would be completely left out of the new movies. – Kevin Dec 23 '15 at 9:32
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    The Clone Wars were canon before the prequel movies were made. I recall them mentioned in the original trilogy. – Paul Rowe Dec 23 '15 at 16:48
  • @PaulRowe - Yes. Leia's holographic message in R2D2 to Obi-Wan mentions Clone Wars. – DVK-on-Ahch-To Dec 23 '15 at 18:09
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Why doesn't Finn have an inhibitor chip?

The inhibitor chips were added to the Clone Troopers created during the Clone Wars, and they had a very specific purpose: overcome the inconvenient battlefield attachment that would have developed between the Clones and their Jedi Generals when it came time to, y'know, murder them.

But the Stormtroopers aren't clones any more, as you can no doubt tell by the fact that Finn doesn't look like Temuera Morrison, and by Finn at one point revealing that he was taken from his family at a young age:

Finn: I'm a Stormtrooper. Like all of them, I was taken from a family I'll never know, and raised to do one thing.

The Force Awakens (2015)

So he doesn't have one because one was never given to him.

Okay, so why wasn't one given to him?

This is pure speculation on my part, but I suspect it's also related to Finn not being a clone. In The Clone Wars CG animated show, we learn that the chips are implanted when the clones are in an early embryonic stage:

AZ-3: My analysis suggests implantation took place at the earliest stage of development, most likely when you [Fives] and Tup were only embryos.

[...]

AZ-3: We will start with the earliest stage of development.

Fives: Nothing.

AZ-3: I will now try a stage three embryo.

Fives: There it is! Ah. Try another. [the second embryo also has a chip]

AZ-3: Based on this data, I can calculate how many in this tree are altered.

[the console lights up; all the stage three embryos have a chip]

Star Wars The Clone Wars Season 6 Episode 3: "Fugitive"

A later episode suggests that the chip (which is biological) is actually part of the clones' genetic code:

Fives: The evidence is in here [points at his head] It's in all of us. Every clone.

Rex: What is it?

Fives: Organic chips built into our genetic code to make us do whatever someone wants, even kill the Jedi. It's all in here.

Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 6 Episode 4: "Orders"

This would be difficult for the First Order to manage with a non-Clone Stromtrooper1, so presumably the technology for implanting them at a later stage either doesn't exist, or simply isn't worth the effort.

Instead, the First Order (and possibly the Empire before them) rely on behavioural conditioning; controlling the environment of a growing soldier-to-be is already a great way to get them to obey you in all things, and at one point Captain Phasma remarks that Finn was sent for "reconditioning" after the First Order attack on Jakku:

Phasma: FN-2187 reported to my division, was evaluated ans sent to reconditioning.

Hux: No previous signs of non-conformity?

Phasma: This was his first offense.

The Force Awakens (2015)


1 I suppose it's not beyond the realm of plausibility that the Empire/First Order maintain Stormtrooper breeding facilities, but that's getting a little dark and I'm not going to explore the idea further.

  • In all fairness, Temeura Morrison looks (or lack) aren't really a sufficient argument - there existed non-JangoFett clones in both Disney and Legends canon. – DVK-on-Ahch-To Dec 22 '15 at 18:33
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    @DVK Well yes, I was mainly joking there – Jason Baker Dec 22 '15 at 18:33

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