In the end of the last film Frodo and Bilbo gain Access to Valinor. Are they immortal like the elves when they get there or do they die "normal"?


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From Tolkien's letter #325:

As for Frodo or other mortals [who enter Valinor], they could only dwell in Aman for a limited time - whether brief or long. The Valar had neither the power nor the right to confer "immortality" upon them. Their sojorn was a "purgatory", but one of peace and healing and they would eventually pass away (die at their own desire and of free will) to destinations of which the Elves knew nothing.

Also, from letter #154:

I have said nothing about it in this book, but the mythical idea underlying is that for mortals, since their 'kind' cannot be changed for ever, this is strictly only a temporary reward: a healing and redress of suffering. They cannot abide for ever, and though they cannot return to mortal earth, they can and will 'die' - of free will, and leave the world.

So no, they can't be made to live forever, but they could live quite a while.

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    So they only die if they want to but it's guaranteed that they do want to die at some point? Am I reading this right? Jan 8, 2016 at 12:36
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    @AndréStannek: They will grow old. Perhaps at a slower rate, but they will. And old age, even if free of suffering, will make you want to pass away at some point.
    – DevSolar
    Jan 8, 2016 at 12:44
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    @Kevin: For one, Elrond IS immortal, and does NOT grow old. (Though even Elves grow weary of Middle-Earth and sail west, though for different reasons.) As for Arwen, chosing Aragorn will take her away from him, not just for now but for eternity. These things are so different from Frodo in Valinor that I do not understand how you came up with them?
    – DevSolar
    Jan 8, 2016 at 13:15
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    @Kevin Elrond may not want to 'die', but he is pretty keen on leaving Middle-Earth. Just as Elves get tired of the world of Men, so too would Men get tired of the world of Elves. Jan 8, 2016 at 13:44
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    @Kevin: I said that old age will make you want to pass on. Elrond doesn't age.
    – DevSolar
    Jan 8, 2016 at 13:45

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