In HP is there ever a mentioning of a person that exists or did exist in reality? I'm looking for specific persons (e.g. George Bush) not titles (e.g. President of the USA).
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- JK Rowling has specifically said that the Nicholas Flamel in Harry Potter is the real person:
Nicholas Flamel is in the book 'the Da Vinci Code', did you get his name from there?
No, Nicholas Flamel is a historical character. Flamel lived in France in the fourteenth century and is supposed to have discovered how to make a philosopher's stone. There are mentions of sightings of him through the centuries because he was supposed to have gained immortality. There are still streets named after Flamel and his wife Perenelle in Paris.
(old jkrowling.com)
Nicolas Flamel was a real person. I read about him in my early twenties when I came across one of the versions of his life story. It told how he had bought a mysterious book called The Book of Abraham the Jew, which was full of strange symbols and which Flamel realised were instructions on alchemy. The story went that he subsequently made it his life's work to produce the Philosopher's Stone.
(Pottermore - Nicholas Flamel)
- She has also said (while under oath) that Paracelsus is a real person.
“I would not go that way if I were you,” said Nearly Headless Nick, drifting disconcertingly through a wall just ahead of him as he walked down the passage. “Peeves is planning an amusing joke on the next person to pass the bust of Paracelsus halfway down the corridor.”
“Does it involve Paracelsus falling on top of the person’s head?” asked Harry.
(Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Chapter 14)
Several of incidental wizards and witches that I mentioned within world of -- within the novel, Harry Potter novels, were believed to be real. Or certainly were real as in the case of Paracelsus.
(JK Rowling's testimony at Warner Bros vs RDR Books)
- Many other names of real historical people can be found on the chocolate frog cards:
“Oh, of course, you wouldn’t know — Chocolate Frogs have cards, inside them, you know, to collect — famous witches and wizards. I’ve got about five hundred, but I haven’t got Agrippa or Ptolemy.” (...) he had not only Dumbledore and Morgana, but Hengist of Woodcroft, Alberic Grunnion, Circe, Paracelsus, and Merlin.
(Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone - Chapter 6)
- You can also try combing the list of Famous Wizard Cards that Rowling wrote for the video games, many are based on real figures.
Q. Let's put on the screen Exhibit 34. Can you please tell the Court what Exhibit 34 is.
A. This is a list of the famous wizards, well, fictional famous wizards, and their achievements and dates of life and death -- of birth and death, that I provided to Electronic Arts.
Q. Did you make these wizards up?
A. I did. Occasionally there is someone who existed in reality. I've taken some liberties with their biography.
(JK Rowling's testimony at Warner Bros vs RDR Books)
- Also, Angus Buchanan, a Scottish rugby player, has an detailed history on Pottermore.
Thus Angus Buchanan became world-famous among wizards whilst also being celebrated among Muggles, a hitherto unknown achievement.
(Pottermore - Scottish Rugby)
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1Heh... no good deed goes unpunished. I got a downvote for my trouble :) Commented Jan 15, 2016 at 0:46
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4lol at the ignorant person asking if Rowling got Flamel from the Da Vinci code.– IvoCommented Jan 15, 2016 at 14:32
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1If film adaptations count, there's a wizard shown reading Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time while enjoying a drink over at The Three Broomsticks. Commented Jan 15, 2016 at 19:13
The Pottermore article on "Minsters of Magic" refers extensively to real life politicians, notably Lord North, King George III, Queen Victoria, Lord Palmerston and Winston Churchill
Leonard Spencer-Moon
1939 - 1948
A sound Minister who rose through the ranks from being tea-boy in the Department of Magical Accidents and Catastrophes. Oversaw a great period of international wizarding and Muggle conflict. Enjoyed a good working relationship with Winston Churchill.
etc
The Reader's Guide to Harry Potter also makes a reference to one Natalie McDonald who was included in Goblet of Fire as a tribute by Rowling:
In July 1999, nine-year-old Natalie McDonald, a Harry Potter fan dying of leukemia, sent a letter that arrived just after Rowling had gone on a two-week vacation. When she returned, Rowling quickly sent e-mails to Natalie and her mother, Valerie. Although Natalie died the day before, Joanne and Valerie struck up a correspondence, and as a tribute to Valerie's daughter, the Sorting Hat sends Natalie McDonald to Gryffindor, making Natalie the only "real" person to appear so far in the Harry Potter series (Goblet of Fire 159).
"The Complete Idiot's Guide to the World of Harry Potter" by Tere Stouffer mentions several, mostly off of Chocolate Frog cards
Agrippa (Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa von Nettesheim)
Paracelsus (Phillipus von Hohenheim)
Ptolemy (Claudius Ptolemaeus... or Ptolemy I of Macedonia)
Hengist of Woodcroft (Real Hengist), a famous Hufflepuff
Then, we have figures that are more mythological, but may have had read historic prototypes: Circe (of Odyssey), Merlin and Morgan Le Fey (of Arthuriana), David and Goliath (of Old Testament)
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Does anyone thinks that Circe had a historic prototype? I somehow doubt that.– b_jonasCommented Jan 15, 2016 at 13:44
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2@b_jonas that's what everyone thought of Troy, till Schliemann. Never underestimate Homers accuracy ;) Commented Jan 15, 2016 at 13:55
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@DVK You know, that's like figuring out Uruk and Shuruppak were real places (was that known before the Epic of Gilgamesh was found?) and using that to justify the existence of Humbaba (who, even in-story, wasn't from anywhere near). Commented Jan 16, 2016 at 15:23
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1@JanuaryFirst-of-May - not quite the same. Humbaba is clearly a made up monster. Circe may very well have been some sort of a queen (sorceress, obviously no, but neither was Nicholas Flamel :) . Mind you, I'm not arguing that Circe was real, merely that there's a reasonable plausibility to consider the idea. "may have... prototypes". Commented Jan 16, 2016 at 15:49
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1@JanuaryFirst-of-May - "there should be a separate "characters from real-world legends" bunch" - yes there should be. It's called "figures that are more mythological" in my answer :) Commented Jan 16, 2016 at 22:01
A good way to start is the Harry Potter Wikia category In-universe articles on real subjects (note that it includes locations and objects as well as people).
Apparently, many real people are mentioned on various book covers, film posters, and Muggle newspapers throughout the last several movies (though many of the HBP mentions are chronologically inappropriate for the 1990s), a few come up in Beedle the Bard (I do not know the details), and a few are on Famous Wizard Cards (Leonardo da Vinci is once that didn't come up in the previous answers). Many others are mentioned in Pottermore articles. A few appear on portraits (such as Thomas More).
Nicholas and Perenelle Flamel are apparently (at least, according to the Wiki) the closest you get to actual people being mentioned in-story.
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1Hey! Leonardo da Vinci was mentioned in The Da Vinci Code. She obviously stole that idea. (/kidding) Commented Jan 15, 2016 at 16:28