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Starswirl the Bearded is referenced often enough in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic to be clear that he was an important character in the history of the universe the show is based in. But, I wonder just how far back into history that would be.

When was Starswirl alive and/or active in the history of Equestria?

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    If there's a reason for downvoting this question, I'd love to hear it. I did some searching online and haven't seen anything other than he appeared to have had some direct interactions with Princess Celestia. That's not very specific considering that she is thousands of years old.
    – Ellesedil
    Commented Apr 12, 2016 at 3:17
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    Probably just a random "humbug" background noise. We shalt call forth the herd, for thy post deserve more friendship, my loyal subject Commented Apr 12, 2016 at 19:16

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DISCLAIMER: the original answer has been rendered obsolete by the S7 finale. The events described in that episode are incompatible with the original story told by the Journal of the Two Sisters, therefore rendering its contents non-canon (by word of god the show is considered the main canon source and the side material is considered canon only when it doesn't contradict the show). For future reference, the original post can be found here.


The answer to this question was just recently given in the show, during the Season 7 finale. Technically, Star Swirl has been alive during the whole show, even if he spent most of the time trapped in limbo - a place that the show itself describes as "beyond time" (so, it is up to you to decide if that time counts as "living").

During the finale, we learn that in order to banish the "Pony of Shadow" the six pillars sacrificed themselves and ended up trapped in limbo with their foe. Again, limbo is described as a place "in-within dimension", where "time doesn't flow normally". This is coherent with what we see later - the pillar are freed from their prison, and the last thing they remembered was the binding ritual. They even had to ask how much time passed, further proving that they had no perception of the passage of time while trapped.
From the details we have, it seems that object or living creatures trapped in limbo are for all purpose "removed from the time line" until they somehow escape (no need for food, no memory, no aging).

So, we are left with a new question. When did Star Swirl and the pillar banish the Shadow Pony? It must be after he got to met Celestia and Luna (they both mention taking lesson from him in the show) but before the Tree of Harmony was discovered and the elements first used (he had a role in the creation of the tree, but based on his reaction he did never saw the grown Tree or knew that the elements even existed before the season 7 finale).

This means that he and the other pillars must have got trapped in limbo with the Shadow Pony sometime after the foundation of Equestria but before Luna banishment

(Notice: technically right now we can't even be sure that Equestria was already founded by the time the pillar were banished. Star Swirl knowledge of Celestia and Luna does not imply they were already declared princesses. Still, he seem not surprised to find out they currently rule Equestria, nor he seem to wonder what is Equestria, so for now it may be safe to assume that Equestria was already founded at the time)

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  • Hum. It didn't even occur to me that he might still be alive. Starlight Glimmer's use of a time travel spell that Starswirl wrote at the end of season 4 definitely lends credence that he could still be alive in a way. Time now has less meaning to him. Although, in order for that to be true, he'd have to bypass entire chunks of time in order to be when he is needed to be. So, he could be active for a really, really wide range of years, while inactive for chunks of that time period. On a related note, I hate time travel.
    – Ellesedil
    Commented Apr 12, 2016 at 19:23
  • @Ellesedil I guess we can only wait and hope the show will actually fill the empty spaces someday. Also, as a side note: when I mentioned age-travel i really meant that the Journal states he found a way to alter his current age, becoming younger as needed. The level of control he had on the procedure was never made clear, but it seem a good way to live longer if needed. Commented Apr 13, 2016 at 17:44
  • @SPArchaeologist It's also stated in Magic Duel that age spells can only be performed by "the highest level unicorns", and Starswirl definitely fits into that category.
    – Ajedi32
    Commented Apr 26, 2016 at 19:24
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We know from both Journal of the Two Sisters and the IDW comics that Starswirl was already there when the Princesses were teenaged fillies, and that he was the one to teach them magic.

We know also from the comics that Celestia and Starswirl grew distant a while after the banishment of Nightmare Moon, due to a later event involving interdimensional travel; some time later, Starswirl disappears due to events in season 7.

He and the other "Pillars of Equestria" (the ponies from the old legends featured across the season [1] [2] [3] and on the "Legends of magic" IDW comic series) get together to banish the Pony of Shadows, and get trapped in Limbo with him in order to keep him sealed away forever.

So, to sum up, we know that he used to be older enough than Celestia and Luna to be their teacher, and that he was around until some time after Luna's disappearance. So, unless time travel is somehow involved (and/or Starswirl was a Time Lord :P), that gives us a good enough frame of reference to place him in the timeline.

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    Please add back the spoiler you "expunged" using the spoiler syntax. It will hide the spoiler for those who aren't interested in discovering it. I, on the other hand, would like to know what you're talking about since it makes your answer feel incomplete.
    – Ellesedil
    Commented Oct 26, 2017 at 17:04

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