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Where is the Void located in the Ardean(?) universe?

After thinking about it for a while, I see three different possibilities:

  1. Iluvatar's space [Arda (Void)]: The Void belongs to Arda, which are both located in Iluvatar's space.
  2. {Iluvatar's space [Arda] (Void)}: Arda and the Void are parallel spaces in Iluvatar's one.
  3. {Iluvatar's space [Arda]} (Void): The Void is outside of Iluvatar's space.

If Iluvatar's space isn't the name Tolkien chose:

It describes the space Iluvatar and all the Ainur who didn't go to Arda are staying.

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  • "arid they saw a new World made visible before them, and it was globed amid the Void, and it was sustained therein, but was not of it." - Silmarillion – Valorum Apr 14 '16 at 21:03
  • What exactly do you mean by "Iluvatar's space"? And are you keeping in mind that in the late 50s/early 60s Tolkien started rethinking what he might mean by Arda? (That is, by "Arda" do you mean "the Earth" or "the solar system"?) – Matt Gutting Apr 14 '16 at 21:04
  • "Therefore Ilúvatar gave to their vision Being, and set it amid the Void, and the Secret Fire was sent to burn at the heart of the World; and it was called Eä." - Silmarillion – Valorum Apr 14 '16 at 21:04
  • Ainur were in Timeless Halls, separate from Void, which was also separated from Ea by Walls of Night. – Mithoron Apr 14 '16 at 21:06
  • @MattGutting iluvatar's space is the space iluvatar stays in. he has to be somewhere and he isn't involved with arda (at least directly). concerning arda: i don't know, what is considered canon? – Armin Apr 14 '16 at 21:07
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Tolkien drew a helpful map to help with his cosmology. As you can see, Arda (the Earth) is set among the Void (Kúma), which is itself split into two parts; Kúma and Ava-Kuma (the Outer Void).

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This ties in nicely with his description in the Silmarillion

arid they saw a new World made visible before them, and it was globed amid the Void, and it was sustained therein, but was not of it.

and

Therefore Ilúvatar gave to their vision Being, and set it amid the Void, and the Secret Fire was sent to burn at the heart of the World; and it was called Eä.

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  • so, the void is the shell and eä is the juicy fruit inside the shell? is that the right metaphor? – Armin Apr 14 '16 at 21:14
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    @Armin No; the Ilurambar is the shell. The void is the empty space around it -- a void. – user40790 Apr 14 '16 at 22:34
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    Bear in mind that the map is from the 1930's "phase" of Tolkien's writing. (Two "phases" before LotR.) The actual cosmology somewhat changed since then. – ibid Apr 15 '16 at 0:44
  • What am I looking at? Please draw a red arrow pointing to said "void". Am I supposed to find it myself or something? – ibid Apr 15 '16 at 0:45
  • @ibid - The circle is Arda and its atmosphere. Everything outside the circle is the Kúma (The Void). – Valorum Apr 15 '16 at 6:38

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