In the series, Rip Hunter took the Waverider and assembled a team of heroes to stop Vandal Savage from taking over the world. But the Time Masters wouldn't allow it, and they try to stop Rip and his team, first by turning one of them against them Mick Rory aka Chronos. When that failed, they sent hunters to 1871 in the town of Salvation to stop them. When that failed, they sent the Pilgrim to attack the teams younger selves and kill them and have them erased from history forever; then that failed.

So I'm really mad. Why are the Time Masters the villains, trying to stop the team from saving the world, and trying to kill them?

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    They're the villains from a certain point of view. To them, Rip & the Legends are vigilantes in danger of screwing up the timeline they've sworn to protect, just as the Rebel Alliance are insurgents attacking the lawful government, their bases, and stealing government property.
    – phantom42
    Commented Apr 26, 2016 at 12:51

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Because they think Savage is the only hope for the world

Kind of funny, actually:

Druce: In 2175, less than ten years from when Savage conquers the world, the Earth is attacked by a warlike race of extra-terrestrials from the planet Thanagar. Without Savage to unite the world under a singular rule, [fire and destruction appears on a screen] this is what becomes of the world.


Druce: This is what happens to the Earth is Savage is not there to lead it. Without him, all human life is extinguished. Even [the Vanishing Point] falls to the Thanagarians.

Legends of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 15: "Destiny"

Original answer

Most immediately, because Rip and the Legends are breaking The Rules, and there are consequences for that:

Time Master Druce: These individuals have manipulated the timeline without authorization on multiple occasions. You [the Pilgrim] are hereby ordered to hunt down these individuals' younger selves and eliminate them.

Legends of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 12: "Last Refuge"

Rip, for his part, knows he's breaking the rules; he just thinks that the benefits of his actions justify his transgressions.

What's the deal with those "rules", anyway?

Let's get some more context on that first quote I gave:

Time Master Councillor: As a Time Master of long standing, you seem to forget our responsibility is to protect the timeline, not humanity. You wish to engage in the very sort of manipulation of time that we are sworn to prevent.

Rip: And yet, if we allow humanity to perish at the hands of evil, then what universe are we custodians of?

Councillor: What if, in trying to save the world from Savage, you make it vulnerable to another, more terrible despot?

Legends of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 1: "Pilot, Part 1"

It all comes down to philosophy, basically.

The Time Masters believe in the burden of power: they can change anything they want in history, but (to paraphrase a great philosopher), just because you can do something does not mean that you should. One of their main concerns is that changing the timeline can have devastating, hard-to-predict consequences1; we saw this in the episode "Star City 2046", where it's suggested that Ray and Sara joining Rip's crew contributed to Star City descending into an anarchist dystopia.

Rip Hunter, on the other hand, believes in the responsibility of power. His thesis is that, because the Time Masters have the ability to improve the lives of human beings, they have a moral obligation to do so.

The Time Masters are so determined to stop Rip and his crew because of the effect their actions are having on the timeline:

Time Master Druce: End this foolish crusade return with me to the Vanishing Point. You'll be acquitted of all charges, and in a few hundred years, we may even be able to fix the damage you've caused.

Legends of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 4: "White Knights"

1 This is something I've talked about on this site before, though in a different fictional universe; the main points of my thesis over there still apply here, however

  • @anaranjada I can't take credit; my high school philosophy teacher always made that joke Commented Apr 23, 2016 at 5:59
  • Why would they do this rip and the team are hero's trying to save the world Commented Apr 23, 2016 at 6:32
  • Rip would never do that he's a hero like the rest of the team Commented Apr 23, 2016 at 6:36
  • I have faith in rip saving the world Commented Apr 23, 2016 at 6:37
  • @AndrewCasali I doubt the Time Masters are concerned that Rip will do intentional damage, but his actions could have unintended consequences for the timeline (for example, allowing an even worse dictator than Savage to take over - like I said in my answer). We've seen on the show that they're kind of right - the Legends have (entirely accidentally) almost ruined the world at least three times. Good intentions do not always lead to good outcomes Commented Apr 23, 2016 at 16:40

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