After Legolas clearly hated Thorin Oakenshield, why did he save him? I mean considering that at the beginning of the movie Thorin hated all Elves, but at the battle of the five armies when he was about to get killed, Legolas threw that sword up and killed the orc. Didn't Legolas hate Dwarves?

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    Maybe he hates orcs more
    – Valorum
    May 15, 2016 at 14:07
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    Look at it like this: Thorin is a great soldier capable of defeating hundreds of orcs without anyone's help. Losing him would essentially mean they would have a few hundred more orcs to slaughter. Since they are on a quest to save the world, Legolas might have decided to keep his personal feelings aside and fight side by side with dwarves.
    – ShankRam
    May 15, 2016 at 14:29
  • I felt that my answer to this one was pretty convincing, considering the quotes from the makers of the film. Is there anything else you'd like me to add before considering an acceptance?
    – Valorum
    Jul 2, 2016 at 10:06

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In the Director's commentary, Screenwriter Philippa Boyens and Director Peter Jackson discuss both the in-universe and out-of-universe reasons why they chose to have Legolas sacrifice his sword to save Thorin. The very short answer is that it boils down to two factors; that the elves hate the orcs far more than they hate the dwarves (and by this point, have abandoned their enmity to team up against the greater threat, the orcs) and that they needed to somehow get the Orcrist sword back to Thorin so he could have it in later scenes.

PB: You know, another corner that you painted yourself into, and had to figure out was that that bloody elf [Legolas] has Orcrist, hasn't he? And you always wanted to get that back to . . .

PJ: Yeah, because Orcrist is ultimately Thorin's sword and he had it confiscated in the forest but we somehow had to figure out a way to get that back, and that's obviously coming up shortly

a few minutes later

PB: I like that in the end that it is the elves and the dwarves fighting against the orcs, side-by-side, even if it has just come down to these two. Which feels true to the book.

PJ: We're emerging from our 'Orcrist Corner' here, Philippa

PB: You did.

PJ: We did! [Legolas throws the sword. Peter Jackson starts yelling at Thorin on-screen] Come on! Grab it!! As long as he grabs it, we've given him every opportunity to get his sword back. He did it!

You may wish to note that while the dwarves and elves have historically fought (for the usual mix of land, power and position) neither represents an existential threat to each other. If the dwarves win this battle, they won't go and murder the elves back home whereas the orcs will quite happily do so.

  • I don't think the link to the definition of existential is needed. :P
    – user57650
    May 15, 2016 at 23:15
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    @RikerW - I added it because I was concerned that it's not a common word, nor is everyone likely to have come across the concept of existential warfare before.
    – Valorum
    May 15, 2016 at 23:16
  • Okay, that makes sense.
    – user57650
    May 15, 2016 at 23:25
  • Tolkien said it best, in my opinion: the Goblins were the foes of all, and at their coming all other quarrels were forgotten. May 18, 2016 at 21:52

I don't think it's just a matter of counting whom they hate more. I think they recognize that, while they have their differences and tensions between them, elves and dwarves and basically on the side of Good, vs. orcs, trolls etc. who are on the side of Evil. In fantasy, this distinction is real.

I see the elf-dwarf enmity as similar to what you see in modern-day friendly neighboring nations (e.g. France/England, Scotland/England, US/Canada, Australia/New Zealand, Scandinavians etc.) - they can make fun of each other, and they can dislike each other, but they'll still feel committed to protecting each other from, say, ISIS, because they recognize that "They" are on the same side, whereas ISIS is on the side of Evil.

  • It's not a friendly rivalry though. In the scenes before, the elves are quite committed to killing the dwarves and vice-versa.
    – Valorum
    May 15, 2016 at 19:23
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    There have been times when Scots and English were quite happy to do that to each other. And there was also the War of 1812. May 15, 2016 at 22:06

To repay Thorin for having saved Legolas earlier in the barrel fighting scene.

  • Legolas didn't see Thorin save him. Besides, that was 2 films ago! Dec 19, 2016 at 22:56
  • Can you elaborate on this answer, it's currently a bit short and low-quality.
    – Möoz
    Dec 19, 2016 at 23:10

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