In Episode VII: The Force Awakens we see a scene with Kylo Ren meditating in the presence of Darth Vader's helmet.

Given that in Episode VI Luke burns Darth Vader's body on the moon of Endor, I think it would be safe to say that was Darth Vader's resting place.

So how did Kylo Ren end up with part of Darth Vader? Did he travel to the moon of Endor to specifically get a piece of Darth Vader?

This question is not how any part of Darth Vader survived Return of the Jedi but how Kylo Ren would know how to find the helmet.

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    Found it in the dumpster where the Ewoks toss out all their scraps and empty food containers.
    – Wad Cheber
    Jun 12, 2016 at 9:08
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    High bidder on Space eBay.
    – Valorum
    Jun 12, 2016 at 9:13
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    I think it's far more likely Luke took it with him immediately after the funeral.
    – David H
    Jun 12, 2016 at 9:52
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    Chat room located here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/41067/darth-vader-discussion Jun 14, 2016 at 7:34
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    @DarthVader I imagine Luke rejoining the festivities after the funeral, taking one look at that Ewok who made drum set out of storm trooper helms, and thinking "I just can't let Dad's favorite helmet end up like that too."
    – David H
    Jul 17, 2016 at 12:07

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The answer is simple. Luke was the only one present when he cremated his father on the pyre, on Endor. So, Kylo found out from Luke prior to the events of The Force Awakens. It follows that Kylo went to Endor and retrieved Vader's helmet.

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    It's also possible that Luke kept it and Kylo stole it when he left.
    – Austin
    Jun 19, 2016 at 5:31
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    I don't feel based on Luke's characterisation and what we know of Jedi beliefs that he would keep a relic like that? The way bodies of powerful Jedi dissolve always made me feel like the body was not a big part of the Jedi view of death etc? This answer is definitely the most plausible; we don't know anything about Kylo Ren's time with Luke, only that they spent a lot of time together and that Luke would have attempted to mentor him. Luke may not even have explicitly told him that the remains were on the moon of Endor, only that Vader wasn't left on the Death Star, the rest could be inferred
    – Toadfish
    Jun 19, 2016 at 6:11
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    More's the point, Luke wasn't alone on Endor. I think we can reasonably assume that multiple people knew about the cremation including Luke's sister and Han Solo (e.g. Kylo's mum and dad).
    – Valorum
    Jun 19, 2016 at 7:31
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    @Austin - It's also possible that smuggler Han Solo unburied it years later so that he could sell it for cash.
    – Valorum
    Jun 19, 2016 at 7:32
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    Is there a source for this? Dec 14, 2017 at 20:14

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