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In Kung Fu Panda 3, Po uses the Wuxi Finger Hold...

...to send himself and Kai to the spirit world since he is unable to use the technique on Kai directly.

But, in Kung Fu Panda, Po uses the Wuxi Finger Hold to defeat Tai Lung. Does this mean Tai Lung is

in the spirit world? Would Kai have taken his Chi, despite Tai Lung's Chi not being on-screen during the events of KFP3?

Or is Tai Lung just simply dead?

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  • I think dead due to lack of chi? He was not a Master of chi anymore than any of the others.... Po had an advantage due to his Panda-ness but Tai Lung would not have. – Rincewind Jun 29 '16 at 6:05
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    @Rincewind: Crane, Mantis, Viper, and Monkey were all turned into green gems. They didn't have any specialized training with Chi. They basically had the same training as Tai Lung, except without the lethal amounts of pride. – Ellesedil Jun 29 '16 at 8:20
  • But they were taken in life not in death... I think you only go to the wherever it was if you are a master of chi. – Rincewind Jun 29 '16 at 8:24
  • @Rincewind: I'm not sure I follow. Kai took the Chi of plenty of Kung Fu masters while he was in the spirit world, including Oogway's. If you consider the spirit world the place where spirits of the dead reside (citation needed - I'd argue that's not true), then there shouldn't be any way for for Kai to get out, or Po for that matter. – Ellesedil Jun 29 '16 at 8:55
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He died (probably).

According the the script for Kung Fu Panda, Tai Lung got himself Ka-Thoomed.

Since it happened off-screen, I think we can be reasonably sure that he died, rather than experiencing any mystical conversion to a spiritual plane of existence.

TAI LUNG: You're bluffing. You're bluffing! Shifu didn't teach you that.

PO: Nope. I figured it out.

He flexes his pinky...

PO (CONT'D): Skadoosh!

KA-THOOM!

[EXT. VALLEY OF PEACE]

A mushroom cloud appears over the Valley, sweeping past the Furious Five and the fleeing villagers.

Notably, in the follow-up special "Kung Fu Panda Holiday", when Tai-Lung appears in a dream, Po states that he was sure that Tai Lung was dea[d].

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And in the Legends of Awesomeness series, Po is pretty explicit about having killed Tai Lung.

Po: Hmm… Tai Lung, did you say? Hm, yes. Sounds familiar. But I—

Peng: They say you destroyed him. But that… that can’t be true. You’re my hero, Po. Please. Please tell me it’s not true.

Po: Yes, I did it! I skadooshed your uncle!

Master and the Panda

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  • So, why didn't Po Ka-Thoom himself, then, when he used the technique on his own finger? He clearly didn't die. – Ellesedil Jun 29 '16 at 8:51
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    @Ellesedil - You clearly don't understand the first thing about Ka-Thooming and I can't spare the time teach you. You must seek a new master. – Valorum Jun 29 '16 at 8:59
  • @Ellesedil - Po shows great resilience to supposedly deadly attacks. His blubber absorbs them all. That's presumably how he survived his own Ka-Thoom. – Valorum Jun 29 '16 at 9:00
  • Eh... I'm not sure that passes the smell test for a mystical attack that doesn't appear to inflict any physical blows. Also, I was left with the impression from Po's dialog that he simply expected transportation for himself and Kai, not death. I'm open to being convinced otherwise, though. And the clip from the special is also a pretty solid reference towards Tai Lung being dead and not in the spirit world. – Ellesedil Jun 29 '16 at 9:08
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    At this point, I'm starting to believe it's just a plot hole while considering all 3 movies together. – Ellesedil Jun 29 '16 at 17:46
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If you freeze the screen at the right moment you can actually see Tai Lung at Kai´s belt. You can see it once he defeats Monkey and Viper.

Tai Lung at Kai’s Belt

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    Do you have the time stamp for this you can edit in? – TheLethalCarrot Nov 8 '18 at 20:40
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I believe Tai Lung survived in Kung Fu Panda, and is not in the spirit world.

The next time you see him, he had his chi taken by Kai, which would lead one to infer that Kai later fought Tai Lung, with Kai winning and taking Tai Lung's chi.

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  • Do you have any evidence supporting this? – Bellatrix Dec 17 '18 at 19:23
  • look on villains wiki and kung fu panda wiki and it will say he survived and got his chi taken by kai – Caleb Hazelton Jan 3 '19 at 16:31
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Kai defeated Tai Lung as you can see on Kai's belt when he takes Monkey's chi. You see Tai Lung as a green gem on the belt so that means he was in the spirit world. That also means he still is in there after the defeat of Kai.

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    Do you have any evidence to suggest this means he was in the spirit world? Any quotations you can provide? – Edlothiad Feb 28 '17 at 23:21
  • This is the best picture I can get of Kai's belt in the scene you mention: i.stack.imgur.com/fVtFf.png So... which one of these things is Tai Lung? – Ellesedil Feb 28 '17 at 23:31
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Well, honestly I think Tai is still alive somehow. I just saw KFP3 again and I noticed that Po pulls his finger completely when doing the Wuxi finger hold and in the first movie he just flexed it. I know it's something very subtle but that could mean why all the ying yang stuff didn't happened but just think about it. What if he didn't kill him intentionally, that will explain the difference between the finger hold in the movies, and the fact that there were no petals on the place where he vanished Tai.

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If you look closely at Kai's belt, you will see Tai Lung as a gem. The only way this could be possible is if Kai encouneed Tai in the Spirit Realm and they more than likely fought, resulting in Kai turning Tai into a gem. This lead me to believe that he isn't simply dead, but he was banished to the Spirit Realm. This could also mean that Tai could find a way to break out of the Spirit Realm just as Tai did, and possibly a return.

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    Are you sure he's on Kai's belt? Like I commented on a similar answer to yours, this is the best image I could find of his belt: i.stack.imgur.com/fVtFf.png So, which one is Tai Lung? If he's not in the shot, then provide additional evidence because I've watched this movie several times looking myself and don't see him. – Ellesedil Jan 2 '18 at 2:17
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If you go to his wiki page on Google it shows he was in the Spirit Realm after the big skadoosh.

Kung Fu Panda wiki, Tai Lung, Biographical Info

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    Eh, it's pretty difficult to put a lot of stock in an answer that only points to a "anyone can edit this" wiki instead of something that has a stronger claim to being canon. It'd be OK as supporting evidence if you also had some strong canon evidence to go with it. I'd also argue that the wiki is contradicting itself. One of the citations for the deceased status is Kung Fu Panda 3, but the wiki article for that movie doesn't mention Tai Lung at all and there's no other information that the movie actually provides evidence for Tai Lung being dead. – Ellesedil Sep 29 '18 at 3:15

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