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At the end of Season 6, The Northern Houses...

very informally "voted" Jon as the King in the North. It is widely acknowledged that Jon is the bastard of Eddard Stark. Note: I would've thought Jon could not be voted as Warden of the North or Lord of House Stark.

So, with that as precedent, when we look at House Baratheon:

Gendry is widely acknowledged as a bastard of Robert Baratheon. Unlike the Starks, there are no heirs to House Baratheon. Unlike the North, the Lord of the Stormlands are not a warden of anything.

Given all that, is it possible for Robert Baratheon's one openly acknowledged bastard to, upon a vote in the Stormlands, be elevated all the way to being the Lord of House Baratheon? King's Landing didn't sign-off on what happened in the North, but it is fait accompli. Can the Stormlands just do something as such?

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    Gendry is not acknoweledged. Not widely or sparsely. He is an unacknowledged bastard of uncertain birth. No Storm lord knows who he is. – Aegon Jul 4 '16 at 17:22
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    Edric Storm is the heir apparent, where bastards are concerned. But he does not exist in the tv-show (yet). – TLP Jul 4 '16 at 17:34
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    @TLP or probably ever. Edric's part in the story so far has been given to Gendry. – kuhl Jul 4 '16 at 21:13
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    @Mooz That question says "suppose Gendry is unknown to the general public" whereas this one assumes "Gendry is widely acknowledged as a bastard of Robert Baratheon". – Rand al'Thor Jul 4 '16 at 22:35
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Gendry is not an acknowledged bastard of Robert where as Jon was acknowledged by Eddard Stark to be his son. From GOT Wiki page:

Gendry is a bastard son of King Robert Baratheon, but is unacknowledged and unaware of his lineage. Gendry did not receive the bastard surname used in the Crownlands (Waters) because he was not openly acknowledged by Robert.

No one in Stormlands knows who Gendry is except retinue of Stannis Baratheon but

Stannis was also killed with his men.

Everyone in North knew Jon ever since he was an infant. Lord Jon Arryn, Lord Stannis Baratheon and Lord Eddard Stark are the notable people who knew about Gendry but

they are all dead.

Therefore it is unlikely that Gendry will make it to throne of the Storm Kings.

But seeing as D&D

crowned Jon despite him being a bastard while in presence of a trueborn Stark (Sansa)

you can never be sure what they will do next. They did not even bother with Jon issuing an edict of legitimising himself. Cersei will claim Stormlands

as heir of King Tommen Baratheon, be sure of that.

Will the Storm Lords accept this? That is another story. They will most likely side with Daenerys against the Lannisters.

But we have to keep in mind, Gendry has one voice which carries a lot of weight. That voice belongs to Arya Stark of Winterfell. If Arya proclaims Gendry as natural son of Robert and Varys confirms it, there may be a possibility that Daenerys may legitimise Gendry and raise him up as Lord Paramount of Stormlands.

In S08E04, Daenerys actually went through with it and legitimised Gendry as Gendry Baratheon, Lord of Storm's End and Lord Paramount of Stormlands. As it happened, Gendry had become well known at Winterfell thanks to Davos Seaworth's testimony of his parentage so Arya's word wasn't needed at all.


In books, Robert has one acknowledged bastard by Delena Florent who is named Edric Storm. He was ferried to safety across the narrow sea by Davos Seaworth and his colleagues. Robert's eldest daughter Mya is not acknowledged but whole Vale is witness that she was fathered by Robert.

  • Gendry did not go across the Narrow Sea - he tried to go to the King's Landing. But it's dangerous and hard too – Schullz Jul 4 '16 at 18:43
  • point well taken. The Storm Lords definitely don't know about Gendry's father. They'd not rally to him. But, in a larger context, finding out anyone's parentage should be difficult. I guess the dragon-fire test is one guaranteed way to confirm lineage. – Just Someone Jul 4 '16 at 18:44
  • @shullz agreed. That is what I remember. – Just Someone Jul 4 '16 at 18:47
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    @khyle time for the obligatory, Targaryen's are not immune to fire. scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/9356/… – kuhl Jul 4 '16 at 21:15
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    Might need an update on this? ;-) – Rand al'Thor May 6 at 14:19
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You might already be clear on this, but just in case: the title “the King in the North” has a pretty specific meaning in Game of Thrones.

The North was an independent kingdom in Westeros that resisted the invasion of the Andals from Essos (about 6,000 years before the events of the TV series), with its own King. It remained so until Aegon Targaryen conquered the rest of Westeros and unified it into the Seven Kingdoms under the Iron Throne (about 300 years before the events of the TV series), and even then it happened peacefully.

The idea of the King in the North thus includes being independent from the Iron Throne; basically seceding from the Seven Kingdoms. (I’ve no idea where Martin gets all these crazy fantasy ideas from.) The North would therefore be pretty much making up its own rules.

As I understand it, if Gendry were to somehow become Lord of whatever is actually left of House Baratheon due to his popularity with people living in the Stormlands, that wouldn’t be the same thing as Rob being declared King in the North, as the Stormlands don’t have quite the same sense of independence and shared identity.

Of course, the Stormlands could collectively decide to try to be independent from the Iron Throne too. Who’s going to stop them?

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    @PaulD.Waite the Lannisters have an army. But Lannisters' bannermen could be angry after murder of Kivan and Lansel in the Sept. – Schullz Jul 5 '16 at 10:00
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    Storm King is equivalent to King in the North in every sense. Storm Kings ruled independently until Aegon the Conqueror came with his dragon. Last Storm Queen, Argella Durrandon married Orys Baratheon, founder of house Baratheon. Thus house Baratheon is heir of the Storm Kings. After Robert's Rebellion, Storm Lords were content because their own Royal house was ruling the seven Kingdoms. What happens now that Lannisters have taken over? Will they aspire to independence? Who can say? – Aegon Jul 5 '16 at 10:41
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    +1 for Scottish referendum sidenote, had me laughing! – Stormie Jul 5 '16 at 11:23
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    @Stormie: I was super-disappointed that Scotland didn’t vote to leave, but only because I wanted to intercut Robb’s ‘King in the North’ scene with footage of a smiling Alex Salmond. – Paul D. Waite Jul 5 '16 at 11:30
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    @PaulD.Waite Every place in Seven Kingdoms was run over by Andals but I don't see why does it make Storm Kings lower than KiTN. Just because First Men survived culturally in North does not give them some special prestige. House Durrandon was actually of First Men. Durrandons and Stormlanders defeated every Andal invasion until a pact was reached after failure of 7th Andal invasion which was sealed by marriage. Andals then mixed with first men population of Stormlands while Storm Kings took Andal religion. – Aegon Jul 5 '16 at 11:50
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Davos of House Seaworth might vouch for Gendry as the heir apparent to House Baratheon, seeing that he's witnessed Jon's ascension to King in the North and has befriended Gendry before. As former Hand of the King to Stannis, his word holds influence in the Stormlands. He might even convince Gendry to follow Jon's example and lead the Stormlands against the Lannisters.

  • Some kind of "kings blood" magic by Melisandre might do the trick as well. – Just Someone Jul 6 '16 at 3:09

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