When they are sitting aside from the Orcs and the troll trying to break down the gate Pippin talks about the end and Gandalf reassures him that Death isn’t the end of the journey.


Pippin: I didn't think it would end this way.

Gandalf: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.

Pippin: What? Gandalf? See what?

Gandalf: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.

Pippin: Well, that isn't so bad.

Gandalf: No. No, it isn't.

Does he refer to the Undying Lands when he is saying this?

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    Just wanted to point out that this dialogue is not in the book, and that the Hobbits or Men do not go to live in the Undying Lands after death. PJ was inventing things in this case, as he did with many other things in LotR movies.
    – Maksim
    Jul 10, 2016 at 7:48

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This dialogue from the film borrows from a dream Frodo has in Bombadil's house:

That night they heard no noises. But either in his dreams or out of them, he could not tell which, Frodo heard a sweet singing running in his mind; a song that seemed to come like a pale light behind a grey rain-curtain, and growing stronger to turn the veil all to glass and silver, until at last it was rolled back, and a far green country opened before him under a swift sunrise.

Fellowship of the Ring Book I Chapter 8: "Fog on the Barrow-Downs"

This is referenced again at the end of Return of the King, when Frodo departs on the Elven-ship:

[T]he ship went out into the High Sea and passed on into the West, until at last on a night of rain Frodo smelled a sweet fragrance on the air and heard the sound of singing that came over the water. And then it seemed to him that as in his dream in the house of Bombadil, the grey rain-curtain turned all to silver glass and was rolled back, and he beheld white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise.

Return of the King Book VI Chapter 9: "The Grey Havens"

In Letter 91, Tolkien links this dream explicitly to Frodo going "over the Sea":

Frodo will join [Bilbo and Elrond and Galadriel] and pass over the Sea (linking with the vision he had of a far green country in the house of Tom Bombadil).

The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien 91: To Christopher Tolkien. November 1944

There's some debate over whether this is specifically a reference to Valinor or to Tol Eressëa, but regardless; it is unquestionably referring to the Undying Lands in some capacity.

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    I forget if it was here on SE, but after realizing Gandalf was talking about Valinor, it was also determined that Gandalf's words to Pippin aren't as encouraging when it's also realized Pippin, as a Hobbit, won't ever see what Gandalf described.
    – user33616
    Jul 4, 2016 at 22:40
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    "Oh, sorry Pippen. You'll just rot in a box until nothing of you remains."
    – Tony Ennis
    Jul 5, 2016 at 2:15
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    @TonyEnnis I'm pretty sure Pippin is subject to the Doom of Men, and so has been promised something greater than than Valinor after his death.
    – Racheet
    Jul 5, 2016 at 10:49

No. It refers to Tol Eressea, where Frodo spends the rest of his natural life.

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    Could you edit in any evidence to back this up?
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Dec 15, 2018 at 9:31
  • Although you is essentially correct, so is @TheLethalCarrot -- You need to put in the work to flesh this answer out. Once you have one or two upvoted questions or answers you should be able to comment anywhere.
    – Spencer
    Dec 15, 2018 at 10:59

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