As seen in the movie, Durin's Bane made rather unpleasant and irritated growls and roars when awoken.

During the early stages of the world when the Balrogs weren't in hiding, did they have their own dialects to speak like all other beings in Arda (Valar, Elves, Men, Dwarves and Hobbits) and communicate with each other, or were they just there for fearful purposes and have no communication capabilities?

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    I find it entertaining that ATM the top 3 highest voted answers are: No, Maybe, and Yes.
    – Kapler
    Sep 22, 2016 at 20:36
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    @Kapler all in bold too
    – Brad
    Sep 23, 2016 at 16:35
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    if they had a language I hope it was called Tagalrog. Sep 23, 2016 at 17:01
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    @Ellesedil Of course! How else does Pikachu communicate with Ash?
    – Anoplexian
    Sep 23, 2016 at 17:20
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    @Kapler Do not come to StackExchange seeking counsel, for they will say both No, Maybe, and Yes.
    – Ber
    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:12

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They almost definitely could talk, probably Melkian.

Balrogs are corrupted Maiar. We know that other Maiar can speak (e.g. Gandalf, Sauron). If balrogs can't speak, it would mean they lost that ability in their transformation, which there would need to be evidence of.

Durin's Bane not speaking can definitely be taken as circumstantial evidence, but it needs to be weighed against the other things we know about Balrogs.

  • Gothmog is called "high-captain of Angband". Captains give orders. Yes, it's possible that Gothmog communicated telepathically, but since there was a spoken language used by Morgoth's servants (Melkian1), it's simpler to assume that Gothmog commuicated via speech.

  • When Gothmog captured Hurin, the text says he "bound him and dragged him to Angband with mockery." So he was mocking Hurin. The most straightforward interpretation is that it was verbal.

Given those things, I don't see any compelling reason to believe balrogs can't speak.

Why didn't Durin's Bane say anything? Maybe he only spoke Melkian, which he didn't think Gandalf would understand. Maybe that particular Balrog went so long without talking to anyone that he lost the ability to speak. Or maybe he just didn't care to talk.

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    Doesn't this statement We know that other Maiar can speak (e.g. Gandalf, Sauron). If balrogs can't speak, it would mean they lost that ability in their transformation, which there would need to be evidence of. sort of imply that orcs would be able to speak elvish, since Orcs were corrupted elves? Sep 22, 2016 at 23:00
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    Yes, I think they would be able to. Since the orcs were always capable of speech, they would learn the language that was spoken by those that raised them, just as humans do. Morgoth and Sauron corrupted the languages of the Valar and elves, respectively, as soon as they could, but in the absence of Melkian / Black Speech, they would have spoken forms of Valarian and Quenyan until the corrupted languages emerged. Sep 23, 2016 at 1:13
  • Do we know when the Lhammas scheme (in which the languages of Middle-Earth are descended from ‘Oromean’, ‘Aulean’ and ‘Melkian’) was abandoned or superseded? Sep 23, 2016 at 11:51
  • These articles might be of interest. History of Quenya Development of the Black Speech I haven't read Tolkien's writings on this subject myself. Sep 23, 2016 at 13:20
  • The most straightforward interpretation is that it was verbal. I guess it depends on whether Durin's Bane was more like an Xbox Live player with or without a microphone. Sep 23, 2016 at 16:37

We don't know

There are no instances in any of Tolkien's writings of a Balrog speaking, so it's not clear whether they could, or what language they would have spoken. They were, however, definitely able to communicate verbally in some fashion; at the very least, they were capable of making sounds, as Durin's Bane does in the text:

Gandalf lifted his staff, and crying aloud he smote the bridge before him. The staff broke asunder and fell from his hand. A blinding sheet of white flame sprang up. The bridge cracked. Right at the Balrog's feet it broke, and the stone upon which it stood crashed into the gulf, while the rest remained, poised, quivering like a tongue of rock thrust out into emptiness.

With a terrible cry the Balrog fell forward, and its shadow plunged down and vanished.

Fellowship of the Ring Book II Chapter 5: "The Bridge of Khazad-dûm"

It seems somewhat unlikely to me that Maiar spirits, even ones locked in an incarnate form, would be completely unable to speak, especially given their position within Morgoth's forces; even Huan was capable of it, though only on special occasions.

That being said, it's possible that they didn't need the ability to speak; there's evidence that the Ainur were able to communicate telepathically with other creatures. Of course, whether the Balrogs would have retained this ability when locked in their incarnate forms is a question we cannot answer.

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    For the record; I'm familiar with Tolkien's comment in letter 210, quoted by Rand al'Thor, but I disagree with his conclusion; there's a wide gulf between "One Balrog never spoke in the scene on the Bridge of Khazad-dûm" and "Balrogs as a collective were incapable of speaking" Sep 22, 2016 at 17:43
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    Doesn't the "with a terrible cry" part contradict Tolkien's statement in letter 210 about a Balrog never makes a vocal sound?
    – syntonicC
    Sep 22, 2016 at 22:30
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    @syntonicC Yes, it appears to; another reason why I struggle with that letter Sep 23, 2016 at 0:42
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    @JasonBaker, with the context of 'laughing and sneering' thrown in, it seems clear that Tolkien is talking about during their confrontation. I.E up till the point where he falls and lets out this terrible cry the Balrog never makes a noise. Which I would still feel agrees with your interpretation - this one didn't feel like talking but that by no means, means others can't talk.
    – Ryan
    Sep 23, 2016 at 19:04
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    Was the balrog actually crying, or tears of flame and shadow?
    – Ber
    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:18

No: they don't talk at all.

From Tolkien's Letters, Letter #210:

The Balrog never speaks or makes any vocal sound at all. Above all he does not laugh or sneer. ... Z[immerman] may think that he knows more about Balrogs than I do, but he cannot expect me to agree with him.

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    Because there's a difference between "The Balrog never speaks in this particular scene which I am discussing" and "Balrogs were incapable of speech" Sep 22, 2016 at 17:41
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    Perhaps they used sign language? ;-)
    – T.E.D.
    Sep 22, 2016 at 18:55
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    Tolkien literally only states he knows more about Balrogs than Zimmerman does. That statement is certainly general over all Balrogs, but doesn't imply his previous statements should be taken to cover all Balrogs in all situations. It seems more likely he was railing against the idea that this particular Balrog should challenge Gandalf by acting like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Sep 22, 2016 at 21:19
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    I think the first part of the quote would be much easier to understand given more of the surrounding context. Or just link to the whole thing. Sep 22, 2016 at 23:23
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    This answer makes no sense. Tolkien is angry at how a movie is depicting the Balrog on the bridge. He says that this Balrog doesn't make a sound while fighting Gandalf, while the movie is depicting it laughing and sneering. It is not a general statement on Balrogs. Indeed, the Balrog screams just before the bridge breaks.
    – isanae
    Sep 23, 2016 at 4:42

Unclear, but probably

They're never described as talking in any of Tolkien's writings that I could find. However, they can certainly make noises. Some actions can be interpreted as being spoken and some events would be unlikely to have happened without speech, but most of it is circumstantial.

That being said, these are stories born out of a love of language and speech. You'd think Tolkien, a philologist, would have mentioned that a whole group of sentient beings were unable to speak or (worse!) had not developed a form of language.

So there's nothing really concrete, but here's what I found anyway.


Gothmog started as Kosomot, Son of Melko. He was "the 'marshal' of the hosts of Melko". A marshal is usually one of the highest ranks in a military, but it's not a very precise term as its definition has varied across time periods and locations. It would however be difficult to command an army without talking.

In an early name-list, the element -mog is said to mean "voice", as in "Voice of Goth (Morgoth)". This would later change to "strife and hatred", but there's also this footnote:

Nothing is said in any text to suggest that Gothmog played such a role in relation to Morgoth as the interpretation 'Voice of Goth' implies, but nor is anything said to contradict it, and he was from the beginning an important figure in the evil realm and in especial relation to Melko. There is perhaps a reminiscence of 'the Voice of Morgoth' in the Mouth of Sauron', the Black Numenorean who was the Lieutenant of Barad-dur.2 p.67

There are also several passages in the early drafts of The Fall of Gondolin that mention Gothmog bidding or ordering people:

But now Gothmog [...] gathered all his things of iron that could coil themselves around and above all obstacles before them. These he bade pile themselves before the northern gate[...]2 p.176

Then Gothmog Lord of Balrogs gathered all his demons that were about the city and ordered them thus[...]2 p.179

Finally, Gothmog is said to have "mocked" Húrin (mentionned by Ben Osborne above):

Gothmog bound him and dragged him to Angband with mockery.S p.231


Balrogs are said to laugh at Húrin in early drafts of The Lay of the Children of Húrin:

and the Balrogs about him  brazen-handed
with flails of flame  and forgéd iron
there laughed as they looked  on his lonely woe3 p.99

An early draft of The Lord of the Ring has the Balrog hiss just before falling from the bridge:

With a gasping hiss the Balrog sprang up; it seemed to be [?half blind], but it came on and grasped at the wizard.7 p.198

The final text has the Balrog scream:

With a terrible cry the Balrog fell forward[...]I p.434

The Balrog who kills Glorfindel in Gondolin also shrieks:

Then Glorfindel's left hand sought a dirk, and this he thrust up that it pierced the Balrog's belly nigh his own face (for that demon was double his stature); and it shrieked, and fell backwards from the rock[...]2 p.194

References starting with a number refer to a History of Middle-Earth volume, roman numerals to a Lord of the Ring volume and 'S' to The Silmarillion. Page numbers from the Harper Collins editions.


I think you will find this article helpful: http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TAB1.html

As usual, we need to turn to the various drafts / sketches / unfinished versions of the legendarium to try to gain insight into what Tolkien was doing.

Various passages in The History of Middle-Earth series show that, indeed, Balrogs could communicate verbally. They were the lieutenants and officers of the orcish armies in the First Age.

A couple of such examples:

"But now Gothmog lord of Balrogs, captain of the hosts of Melko, took counsel and gathered all his things of iron that could coil themselves around and above all obstacles before them. These he bade pile themselves before the northern gate..."

"Then Gothmog Lord of Balrogs gathered all his demons that were about the city and ordered them thus..."

BoLT2, The Fall of Gondolin

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