In said film Bruce Wayne is shown to be residing in a house by a lake;

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most probably nearby the Wayne Manor, because the latter is almost destroyed:

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Is this state of the manor explained in the movie (I skipped some boring parts, to be fair), or in some novelization?

Important: if it is explained in Suicide Squad, I don't want to know!

  • It appears to have been involved in an extensive fire. I suspect you'd like us to dig deeper and explain why such an event occurred.
    – Valorum
    Oct 9, 2016 at 19:01
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    BvsS didn't get a novelisation, by the way.
    – Valorum
    Oct 9, 2016 at 19:01
  • @Valorum - I was kinda hoping (in order of preference) that 1) it was explained in the movie or 2) it was explained in the novelization. But yes, I'd like to know why the manor is in ruins, yet I suspect it has something to do with the Robin costume, hence the Important part. Oct 9, 2016 at 19:07
  • Speculative article on the topic: cinemablend.com/new/…
    – DCShannon
    Oct 10, 2016 at 16:54
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    “I skipped some boring parts, to be fair” — but the twelve minutes I did watch were reasonably competent! Feb 16, 2017 at 23:01

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I don't have any evidence whatsoever, so this was almost a comment:

I've seen BvS a couple times, including the extended version. I don't believe there's ever any explanation of what happened to Wayne Manor.

I felt like this movie drew on our collective understanding of who Bruce Wayne/Batman is, rather than trying to re-invent the wheel and waste a lot of time on his background. The most recent, mainstream version of Batman was presented in the recent trilogy starring Christian Bale, starting with Batman Begins.

Clearly, not everything in that series has happened in the past of this new movie, but I think it loosely inspired the new one. Sort of like Hulk and The Incredible Hulk. The second movie there sort of drew on the first one, but ignored a lot of the stupid stuff people hated, like the ending.

I think most people agree that Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were great. I certainly do not agree that the Dark Knight Rises was anything other than a train wreck, much like the ending of Hulk.

Wayne Manor burns down in Batman Begins. It's not rebuilt until Dark Knight Rises.

This Batman never rebuilt it.

  • My thoughts as well. The link you provided made me laugh; it suggest that one possible reason for the state of the mansion is Bruce Wayne being broke. ROFL Oct 10, 2016 at 19:42
  • This is correct - Unlike every other Batman Movie we've seen, which is either solely independent, or part of a linear series, BvS is out-of-place in its specific timeline. It isn't part of the preceding Nolan Trilogy at all. It's part of the overall DC Cinematic Universe reboot. We don't know what happened to the mansion, to Robin, even to the reason why Batman is okay killing people. These are all surely to be touched upon in various other sequels and prequels in the new DCCU.
    – Vogie
    Oct 11, 2016 at 2:47

The manor being in ruins is possibly a nod to Kingdom Come, another series that Snyder originally looked to for reference along with The Dark Knight Returns. In Kingdom Come, Superman returned from 10 years of self-exile to find an aged Bruce Wayne living solely in the Batcave. The manor itself was a burned-out husk, very similar to what we see on-screen. Bruce reveals that it was destroyed by villains after his identity got out:

A chief component of the story is also Superman's inner conflict, which starts largely because the people of Metropolis prefer Magog - a hero who kills criminals instead of apprehending them. There are numerous discussions throughout the story of what it means to be a hero, some of which makes it into Batman vs Superman.

Apparently, there was a scene filmed where Superman enters the ruins of Wayne Manor, then finds his way into the Batcave to confront the vigilante. Visually, the scene is nearly identical to the one from Kingdom Come but was never completed, apparently. You can find pictures online of Henry Cavill in costume amongst the ruins of the manor. The scene was likely replaced by the one where Superman intercepts the Batmobile and confronts Bruce that way.

  • Interesting one! Do you happen to have the list Snyder used? Feb 16, 2017 at 15:34
  • @Gallifreyan - not offhand, but I might be able to find it. Back when production was first starting and he was doing interviews about the story, Snyder specifically mentioned "Dark Knight Returns", "Kingdom Come", and "Hush" as stories he was looking into. I think he also brought up "No Man's Land" but I could be wrong.
    – Omegacron
    Feb 16, 2017 at 15:37
  • Nice addition with that update! Also, I read Kingdom Come, and it is a fantastic story! Feb 19, 2017 at 19:42

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