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Chapter 9, HP and the Order of the Phoenix

Mrs. Weasley says that everyone in the family has been a Prefect, but Charlie was a Quidditch Captain.

In the sixth book, (The Half Blood Prince) Hermione detailed in here that Prefects have the same or equal status with Quidditch Captains.

Ron was also some kind of jealous because his brothers were Prefect and his brother Charlie was a Quidditch Captain.

Mrs. Weasley clearly said that everyone has been a prefect, but Charlie was a Quidditch Captain. Was Charlie an exception for what Mrs. Weasley said? But Hermione says that they just have an equal status. If that is so, Did Charlie become a Prefect?

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    Mrs Weasley let out a shriek just like Hermione’s. ‘I don’t believe it! I don’t believe it! Oh, Ron, how wonderful! A prefect! That’s everyone in the family!’ OOTP – Valorum Nov 28 '16 at 13:06
  • He was a prefect and Quidditch captain – Valorum Nov 28 '16 at 13:08
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    This is actually a really good question, because every result from Google seems to just state that Charlie was a prefect as though it were concrete, unquestionable fact, and every single one just puts the entire OOTP book as the reference for that statement. I'm interested to see that actually, he may have just been a Quidditch Captain and nothing else. – DisturbedNeo Nov 28 '16 at 13:36
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    @DisturbedNeo Agreed with your comment about "every result from Google" matter of factly asserting his prefectship with this one Molly quote. I, however, find that George's need to protest about their exclusion to her "whole family" line, without Fred adding "Yeah, and Charlie wasn't a prefect either" or something along these lines to serve as evidence for rather than against. I, too, think a tweet to Rowling is the way to go. – Ghoti and Chips Nov 28 '16 at 14:36
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    I don't know if that's sarcasm or not. Anyway, Charlie was a prefect, as I detailed in my answer below. If you need an explicit "Yes, Charlie was a prefect", you'll have to consult Rowling. – Ghoti and Chips Nov 28 '16 at 15:44
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Yes, Charlie Weasley was a prefect

In the Weasley family, four of the children became prefects, at the time of Order of the Phoenix.

“Drawing room . . .” he growled, as the pupil contracted. “Desk in the corner? Yeah, I see it. . . . Yeah, it’s a boggart. . . . Want me to go up and get rid of it, Molly?”
“No, no, I’ll do it myself later,” beamed Mrs. Weasley. “You have your drink. We’re having a little bit of a celebration, actually. . . .” She gestured at the scarlet banner. “Fourth prefect in the family!” she said fondly, ruffling Ron’s hair.
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 9

  1. Bill Weasley
  2. Charlie Weasley
  3. Percy Weasley
  4. Ron Weasley

It is fair to call into question Molly's initial "That's everyone in the family" line, but Note that nobody protests this number (she corrected herself from "everyone in the family [6 sons, 1 daughter]", to 4), nor do Fred and George protest by noting "Charlie wasn't a prefect", despite protesting about themselves not being included in the "whole family" claim from Molly in your question.

Also, there is this letter from Percy Weasley

Dear Ron,
I have only just heard (from no less a person than the Minister of Magic himself, who has it from your new teacher, Professor Umbridge) that you have become a Hogwarts prefect.
I was most pleasantly surprised when I heard this news and must firstly offer my congratulations. I must admit that I have always been afraid that you would take what we might call the “Fred and George” route, rather than following in my footsteps, so you can imagine my feelings on hearing you have stopped flouting authority and have decided to shoulder some real responsibility.

This further emphasizes that Fred and George were the odd ones out.

  • @Skooba And now? – Ghoti and Chips Nov 28 '16 at 14:47
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    up vote all around – Skooba Nov 28 '16 at 15:08
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    This seems pretty categorical. This can't really be interpreted any other way, except at a stretch. – Valorum Nov 28 '16 at 16:29
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    Fourth perfect in the family? Perhaps Arthur was one. – SQB Nov 28 '16 at 16:38
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    @SQB If one assumes she is referring to their whole family, the number would probably be higher than four, considering their (pure-blood) heritage goes back many generations. Meanwhile, the interpretation I present in my answer seems much more logically feasible. – Ghoti and Chips Nov 28 '16 at 16:43
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The statement in question also disregards Fred and George.

‘I don’t believe it! I don’t believe it! Oh, Ron, how wonderful! A prefect! That’s everyone in the family!’

‘What are Fred and I, next-door neighbours?’ said George indignantly, as his mother pushed him aside and flung her arms around her youngest son.

From the outset we must not take this line literally since she forgot Fred and George who are sitting right next to her.

The books only ever mention that Charlie was Quidditch captain outright

You could say I’ve got a lot to live up to. Bill and Charlie have already left – Bill was Head Boy and Charlie was captain of Quidditch. Now Percy’s a Prefect.

Edit: Its still unclear Charlie was a prefect, just implied.

As Ghoti has found later in the chapter she does specifically say Ron is the 4th prefect.

We’re having a little bit of a celebration, actually ...’ She gestured at the scarlet banner. ‘Fourth prefect in the family!’ she said fondly, ruffling Ron’s hair.

This quote implies that Charlie is also was a prefect since George and Fred clearly were not. However, even here it doesn't spell it out that Charlie was a prefect, and so you could still say that she could be including herself or Mr. Weasly as one of the four, however, it does strongly imply that she means her children in this instance.

When Harry is made quidditch captain

‘That gives you equal status with prefects!’ cried Hermione happily. ‘You can use our special bathroom now, and every- thing!’

‘Wow, I remember when Charlie wore one of these,’ said Ron,

While less likely now, she could still simply mean that 4 of her children achieved the "status" of a prefect.

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    1. Nobody in the room points out to Molly, "Charlie wasn't a prefect" after George protests about his and Fred's exclusion from the "whole family" claim. 2. Molly doesn't say "Bill was a Prefect" either in that second quote, yet we don't assume he wasn't a Prefect, he simply assume she is listing off their most impressive titles (in the case of Charlie, Quidditch Captain > Prefect). I don't think "all evidence points to Charlie only being Quidditch captain", certainly the quotes you provide aren't convincing. – Ghoti and Chips Nov 28 '16 at 14:31
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    I don't think you're allowed to make an edit that changes the entire meaning of your answer. You went from "Evidence points to only being a Quidditch captain" to agreeing with me that he probably indeed was a prefect, after I went and fetched the correct quotes. I think the Edit is even less justified when I included all the info in an answer of my own. – Ghoti and Chips Nov 28 '16 at 15:02
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    @GhotiandChips 1. i can edit my question in anyway i want, and 2 i still state that it doesnt prove he is a prefect. – Himarm Nov 28 '16 at 15:03
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    @Ghoti: That's talking about edits to somebody else's answer, not your own answer. – Kevin Nov 28 '16 at 15:10
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    @GhotiandChips There's never been a problem with editing your answer in major ways. Adding new information and editing answers is how we can stay up-to-date and accurate. After all, if a new canon source comes out, it would be a shame to not be able to change an answer to reflect new details. – David Starkey Nov 28 '16 at 18:07

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