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When choosing Dragon warrior, Oogway says I sense that Dragon warrior is amongst us. Then he chooses Po but it is almost like Po just gets in the way of Tigress. In terms of movies message, what do you think that is the most reasonable explanation, that Oogway knew from start that Po would be Dragon warrior or it was all something like dao?

  • In the script Po lands in the circle just as Oogway is choosing the Dragon Warrior. Note that his finger seems to have a mind of its own...; imsdb.com/scripts/Kung-Fu-Panda.html – Valorum Jan 10 '17 at 18:53
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    Also in KFP 3, we learn that Oogway had been taught how to manipulate Chi by Panda's, and so saw potential in Po to fulfill all the important parts of the Dragon Warrior, not just an expert Kung Fu practitioner like Tigress was. – Majaii Jan 10 '17 at 19:19
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    Oogway wasn't making the choice. The Universe was making the choice. Oogway was just a channel. – Harry Johnston Jan 11 '17 at 2:13
  • Well, Oogway is pretty much one with the dao or some such, so there may not really be a distinction. – Misha R Dec 30 '17 at 6:57
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Po appeared in right place at the right moment. Just when Oogway was choosing the Dragon Warrior, he accidentally pointed at Po (instead of Tigress?). As Oogway later tells Shifu there are no accidents so appearance of Po must be planed/influenced by some other forces.

Shifu: The panda? Master, that panda is not the Dragon Warrior. He wasn't even meant to be here. It was an accident.

Oogway: There are no accidents.

Shifu: [Sighs] Yes, I know. You said that already... twice.

Oogway: Well, that was no accident either.

Shifu: ... Thrice.

As Oogway truly believed in this "accident" he sticks with his decision.

To understand Oogway's philosophy we need to consider another moment from the movie when he talks to Shifu:

Oogway: My friend, the panda will never fulfill his destiny, nor you yours, until you let go of the illusion of control. 

Shifu: Illusion? 

Oogway: Yes.  
[points at peach tree]  
Look at this tree, Shifu. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me, nor make it bear fruit before its time.  

Shifu: But there are things we can control.  
[kicks the tree so that peaches fall]  
I can control when the fruit will fall!  
[he slices a peach and throws the pit to the ground]  
I can control where to plant the seed! That is no illusion, Master!  

Oogway: Ah, yes. But no matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.  

Shifu: But a peach cannot defeat Tai Lung!  

Oogway: [folding dirt over the peach pit] Maybe it can, if you are willing to guide it, to nurture it. To believe in it.  

Shifu: But how? How? I need your help, master!  

Oogway: No, you just need to believe. Promise me, Shifu. Promise me you will believe.  

Shifu: I... I will try. 

In both these dialogs Oogway presents his philosophy that is similar to what Aristotle said:

Aristotle made a distinction between the essential and accidental properties of a thing. For example, a chair can be made of wood or metal, but this is accidental to its being a chair: that is, it is still a chair regardless of the material from which it is made. To put this in technical terms, an accident is a property which has no necessary connection to the essence of the thing being described.

Po is a panda, it's his essence. But he could be shaped into the Dragon Warrior - accidental property.

According to Aristotle, there is always a reason for everything that happens. Your experiences are designed to shape you, define you and, hopefully, grow you into the mightiest you possible.

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    This makes it sound like you believe Tigress should have been the Dragon Warrior, but Oogway "accidentally" picked Po instead and just stuck with it to kind of seem like he's saving face. There's no way that's correct. Am I misinterpreting your answer? – Ellesedil Jan 10 '17 at 23:12
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    @Ellesedil I'm not sure who is Oogway pointing at but remember in the movie Tigress claims she was chosen. You understand me correctly. But I didn't said Oogway is saving his face for accidentally picking Po but he sticks with his belief that there are no accidents. I think this answer need some philosophical/religion background about accidents, fate and free will with context of Kung Fu and Asian culture. – janisz Jan 10 '17 at 23:28
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    Note that Kung Fu Panda 3 makes it clearer that Oogway knew exactly what he was doing. – deworde Jan 11 '17 at 9:45
  • Also note that in KFP3, they do learn to make plants bloom. – Harris Jan 11 '17 at 17:08
  • My answer is based only on KFP1&2. Hope to fix it after the weekend :) – janisz Jan 11 '17 at 17:11
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Given Kung Fu Panda 3's depiction of the relationship between Pandas and Oogway I think Oogway's insistence that its not an accident makes lot of sense.

  • But was it something Oogway knew would happen from the start or a coincidence? – Edlothiad Dec 28 '17 at 14:19
  • @Edlothiad - definitely coincidence because, don't forget, he has his eyes closed. His hand is acting like a dowsing rod in manner of speaking. If he had truly already chosen, he would have just walked out and said "it's Tigress...hey, what's this Panda doing falling from the sky?" – NKCampbell Dec 28 '17 at 16:42
  • And what exactly is that depiction? :) If you can expand upon your answer, it will make it much better. – FuzzyBoots Dec 28 '17 at 17:35

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