From Star Wars Episode V: Empire Strikes Back, during lightsaber duel between Luke and Vader:

Vader: Impressive... most impressive. Obi-Wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear... now release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.

Although Vader had seen Luke with Obi-Wan earlier, he was clearly wrong to assume Obi-Wan trained Luke (not counting Luke's first lightsaber toying abroad Millennium Falcon which shouldn't be enough to get extol from Vader). Did he ever learn that it was actually Yoda who trained Luke?

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    But Obi-Wan was there when Yoda trained Luke. Well, not in the flesh obviously, but still he was more involved than you think.
    – Mr Lister
    Feb 26, 2017 at 13:23
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    @MrLister So, what Vader thought was true... from a certain point of view?
    – Steve-O
    Feb 26, 2017 at 13:25
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    @MrLister Obi-Wan's ghost was the one who suggested Luke to go to Dagobah. Of course, Yoda played the main role.
    – user931
    Feb 26, 2017 at 13:29

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Main (Disney) Canon

In the films, he didn't find out. His brief conversation with Luke on the surface of Endor, then in the presence of the Emperor didn't reveal any more information about his training. Vader then died shortly afterwards.

Legends Canon

In the film's official novelisation there was an additional scene that seems to have come from an earlier draft script, but got removed from the final shooting script

The Emperor tapped his fingers on the arm of the throne, recalling. “There was one called … Yoda. An aged Master Jed … Ah, I see by your countenance I have hit a chord, a resonant chord indeed. Yoda, then.”
Luke flashed with anger at himself, now, to have revealed so much, unwillingly, unwittingly. Anger and self-doubt. He strove to calm himself—to see all, to show nothing; only to be.
“This Yoda,” the Emperor mused. “Lives he still?”
Luke focused on the emptiness of space beyond the window behind the Emperor’s chair. The deep void, where nothing was. Nothing. He filled his mind with this black nothing. Opaque, save for the occasional flickering of starlight that filtered through the ether.
“Ah,” cried Emperor Palpatine. “He lives not. Very good, young Skywalker, you almost hid this from me. But you could not. And you can not. Your deepest flickerings are to me apparent. Your nakedest soul. That is my first lesson to you.” He beamed.

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Official Novelisation

Since Vader was in the room during this conversation, he would have been aware of Yoda training Luke.

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    The writing in those novels really is terrible.
    – crobar
    May 23, 2017 at 20:54

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