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After reading this comment

I believe Ultimate Wasp once crawled inside Hulk's head to deliver a shock to his brain (to subdue, rather than kill), but the only terrifying uses for Ant-Man's powers that I recall was that one issue where he shrunk down for sexual purposes with a full-sized Wasp (the hero, not the insect, which would probably be even more terrifying).

I explored and found this page from Avengers #71 (may be NSFW):

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It shows that Hank is naked.

From what I can tell from the Ant-Man movie, one needed a suit for shrinking to work. You can't just inject Pym Particles into your blood stream and enjoy all Ant-Man powers without the suit. While shrunken, if you lose your helmet, the results can be disastrous (according to the movie).

Talking about comics, I tried searching other instances of naked Ant-Man, but I failed. Did the Marvel guys forget the facts just to show a unique (and terrifying) sexual fantasy? Is this an inconsistency or does Ant-Man not really need a suit to shrink in the comics? If Ant-Man doesn't need a suit to shrink, what in-universe reason was given to make it work (like Pym Particles in blood stream or exposure to Pym radiation)?

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    “You can't just inject Pym Particles in your blood stream and enjoy all Ant-Man powers without suit” — maybe you can’t! – Paul D. Waite May 4 '17 at 9:14
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    That last panel is quite disturbing. – Z. Cochrane May 4 '17 at 10:38
  • @zabeus The exaggerated anatomy certainly is. – Gallifreyan May 4 '17 at 10:48
  • I like the "may be" NSFW tag lol – Lightness Races in Orbit May 4 '17 at 12:03
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    I tried searching other instances of naked Ant-Man, but I failed. Can we pin this somewhere? – isanae May 4 '17 at 20:51
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At least over most iterations - I'm not an expert, so I don't know if there are exceptions or even how many iterations there are - his suit is used to regulate the dose of Pym Particle exposure. The more exposure, the more drastic the size change, so he needs a way to fine-tune that. However, once the process of shrinking/growing is complete, the suit is not needed, anymore; at least not to maintain his size or shield him from side effects or some such. See also this Wikia article or (as referenced there) Tales to Astonish #27.

Therefore, the likely scenario here is: Shrink in suit, take off suit, Snu-Snu, put on suit, grow back to normal.

There are other ways of exposing objects to Pym Particles. Initially it was a liquid, later on a gas, so whatever way of distributing those would work. The issue with many of those however is the exact dosage, which is why the suit remains Ant-Man's preferred method of shrinking himself.

Additionally, repeated exposure to Pym Particles enables the user's body to naturally produce their own Pym Particles, which allows shrinking and growing without external exposure. So - depending on when that comic takes place - another possible scenario is simply: Hank naturally produces Pym Particles, shrinks, Snu-Snu, grows back to normal, without the suit being involved at all.

By the way, the helmet, in the comics, is his means to communicate with insects. It's a transceiver tuned to the ants' communication 'channel'. There's nothing critical for survival in there. In the very first comic(s), he doesn't have it, yet, resulting in a less-than-comfortable ant encounter which ultimately leads to the development of the helmet.

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    I always assumed the suit was providing a suitably-scaled air supply also. Not so? – Lightness Races in Orbit May 4 '17 at 10:56
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    @BoundaryImposition The suit does have an air supply or get one at some point, iirc. But it's not for suitable scale. What would that even mean? Air doesn't come in different sizes: ants' air is the same scale as ours. I guess it was introduced for hostile environments (or maybe going ultra small size / subatomic). As mentioned above, initially he didn't even have a helmet, so no rebreather or anything. In his very first appearance he didn't even have a suit - so no other elaborate oxygen supply hidden in it, either. – TheNickOfTime May 4 '17 at 11:17
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    "What would that even mean? Air doesn't come in different sizes" It's going to have to if Ant-Man's mini lungs are going to be able to handle it? He's not an ant, so his alveoli are like a hundred times too small post-shrinking; they weren't designed for operating at that scale. Or, at least, if DS9's "One Little Ship" is to be believed :) – Lightness Races in Orbit May 4 '17 at 11:32
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    @BoundaryImposition Well then, limits of comic book science, I guess. ;) In the MCU movie, apparently it is indeed the case that that is the reason for his sealed helmet/suit. Which in the comics it is not. – TheNickOfTime May 4 '17 at 11:59
  • Alrighty, I can accept that. Thanks :) – Lightness Races in Orbit May 4 '17 at 12:04
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The Ultimate version of Hank Pym does not require the suit OR an injection of Pym Particles to grow/shrink. Using his wife Janet's mutant blood as a base, he created a serum which permanently altered his physiology after only a few uses, thereafter allowing him to grow or shrink as needed with only a thought - essentially giving himself powers.

The suit is merely a way of clothing himself, given that normal clothing rips apart if he grows while wearing it. The special fabric of the suit allows it to grow and/or shrink along with his own body. The helmet, on the other hand, is merely a transmitter which allows him to communicate with insects. Neither the suit nor the helmet is required, however.

In fact, Ultimate Hank Pym grows without the suit on several occasions, resulting in a giant naked Hank - something that once landed him on the front page of a tabloid newspaper.

While fighting Steve Rogers in Ultimates Vol 1, Issue 9:

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Again while showing off his shrink ability to the Defenders in Ultimates 2 Vol 1, Issue 6:

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Hank Pym seems to have invented a number of other ways of applying Pym particles to shrink people/things in the comics. Presumably he relied on one of these methods.

For example:

In Deadpool #66, Deadpool aquires some Pym particle spray which he uses to shrink Rhino and make him a keychain ornament.

In Uncanny X-Force, Fantomex has a gun that works on Pym particles, which he uses to shrink 'The World'.

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