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I am currently reading Horus Heresy where Horus starts being the "Warmaster". But I have been looking for information about who holds this title at the moment in the universe of Warhammer 40k and I cannot find who it is. Does someone hold this title, or is it waiting for a new lord?

With the new lore and the comeback of Roboute Guilliman, maybe it's him who is the "Warmaster"?

Who is currently the "Warmaster"?

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    I don't think they hand that title out anymore, Horus kind of ruined it for everyone. Chaos uses it though, they like to remind the Imperium of that whole heresy thing from time to time. You can read more about it here. – Daft Jun 13 '17 at 14:05
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Are all inline to fix either grammar I noticed or to add in extra details. I forgot I had to rush to an appointment earlier...

TL;DR:

  • There has not really been a Warmaster since Horus
  • After the Heresy Guilliman declared himself Lord Commander
  • These two terms are fairly sononymize; Lord Commander has oversight to a degree but Warmaster did not.
  • Lord Commander was held by a high Lord of Terra after Guilliman was wounded for a time, but then abandoned.
  • After Guilliman's "resurrection" he has reclaimed the title to again stabilize the Imperium

You are correct in a way. Horus was the Warmaster after the Emperor returned to Terra to focus on his secret work. After the Heresy Guilliman claimed the title of Lord Commander to stabilize the Imperium.

Since Guilliman was wounded, both positions have been used. Typically a High Lord of Terra filled the position of Lord Commander, though it was abandoned sometime later. Warmaster has been used in one way or another continuously since the Heresy. When there is a significant threat that requires the resources of multiple sectors one individual is charged the Warmaster by the High Lords of Terra. Sometimes an alternative title is used (given the bad juju of Warmaster) but this individual has complete autonomy to direct and command as he sees fit in the given conflict. After resolution of the conflict the title is no longer active.

Now that Roberto Girlyman has essentially been resurrected, and after both seeing the state of the Imperium and (possibly) consulting with his father in the Imperial Palace, he has declared himself Imperial Regent and Lord Commander (aka the voice of the Emperor and commander of Imperial forces). Notice that he has given himself more power than he had previously as just the Lord Commander.

While neither Warmaster or Lord Commander held the weight they had for mankind since the Heresy like they had for the Primarchs, with a Primarch in the position they both hold a great deal more charge. Until we see the full extent that Guilliman plans to impose himself on the Imperium when the new rulebook comes out we will not know exactly how much power he has, but it will likely be lessened by Guilliman himself. He has always been one to set limits (creating the chapters for example).

Regardless, given the positions being held by a Primarch, the two terms are essentially synonyms. As Warmaster Horus was number two to the Allfather/Emperor, and pretty much coordinated all operations of the military forces without oversight from the Council of Terra (High Lords prior to the Heresy) or anyone save the his father. As Lord Commander Guilliman answered to the High Lords as a member of the governing body. While the High Lords were all equal (as equal as one could be to a Primarch) Guilliman could do as he pleased, though I suspect there was more information disclosure and possibly even discussions on what should happen. I am reading Primarch book one right now and he seems to like having war councils...

Still the two positions were essentially the same...In either situation the Primarch has full command of forces to ensure an overall strategy is being followed and that overall plan not at odds with numerous other strategies by numerous other commanders.

  • On a slightly related note which books focused on Guilliman taking over and saving the empire? I'd love to read them! – Liath Jun 13 '17 at 16:19
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    The initial books that cover the current events unfolding are the Gathering Storm series. Book 1 covered the fall of Cadia, Book 2 covered something that pretty much was solely on the Eldar, and Book 3 covered the rise of Girlyman. Book 3 is what you want. I do not know for sure, but I believe the only novel released from Black Library to date covering the current events is Dark Imperium by Guy Haley. Though with 8th finally dropping in less than a week I am sure that those will cover new information and that more will follow from black library, white dwarf, etc. – Odin1806 Jun 13 '17 at 17:50
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    Thanks Odin sorry - I meant first time around, post heresy... is that in a book? – Liath Jun 13 '17 at 21:15
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    I don't know the answer to that one. I have not read a lot of the Horus Heresy books, none that involved Guilliman. I assume that since they keep coming out with more books they are either jumping around in the timeline or they have not reached the conclusion of its events as of yet. That would be the point that we are waiting for. I have been interested to learn more about the drafting of the Codex Astartes (despite the Space Wolves not following it) and I do not think that has been covered either. You might be able to shoot black library an email asking that however... – Odin1806 Jun 13 '17 at 23:11
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The title Warmaster stopped being used after the whole Horus heresy instead they began using Lord Solar instead and there have been a couple since horus.

Warmasters/Lord Solars are created when a Crusade is being planned the last person to hold this rank was Macharius during the Macharius crusade, which brought nearly one thousand worlds into the Imperium, and was one of the most successful crusades in its history (next to the great crusade of course).

  • Imperial Guard Codex 5th Edition - The Hammer of the Emperor - (possibly page 7 in your copy) - "...Emperor show mercy to the fool who stands against me, for I shall not." - Warmaster Demetrius, Salonika Crusade, 733.M38 – Odin1806 Jun 13 '17 at 23:35

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