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I'm sick of waiting for The Winds of Winter. Where should I start watching the show where I won't be too lost from the book differences and I won't have to watch a lot of stuff I've already read about?

Or am I screwed and I should just watch them all? I just want to wade through the least amount of stuff I already know about from the books.

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    I don't think this is a duplicate. The referenced question is about watching the TV series having not read all the books, and how far is it safe to watch without being spoiled for the books. This question is about watching the TV series having read all of the books to date. – Mike Scott Jun 18 '17 at 19:21
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    I agree, I don't think it's a dupe either. I just want to wade through the least amount of stuff I already know about from the books. – ty_ Jun 18 '17 at 23:43
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    This is pretty much the opposite question to the marked dupe. Linked question: hasn't read books, wants to avoid spoilers. This question: has read books, is only interested in watching and following storylines that are potential future book spoilers! – user568458 Jun 21 '17 at 15:04
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    I question the wisdom of wanting to watch the show as a replacement (or at least substitute) for reading the books. Some story arcs have been drastically altered, so the notion that what happens in the show will happen in the books is dubious at best. Watch the show to find out how things unfold in the show, not necessarily the overarching story. – PlutoThePlanet Jun 21 '17 at 15:41
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I would recommend watching them all. Some major characters have their arcs diverge from the books fairly early on. If you have to, you could probably skip season 1 without too much difficulty.

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    Could,but I wouldn't. The show is completely enjoyable independent of the books. – Paul Jun 18 '17 at 15:34
  • You could skip season 1, but that would just be skipping the best part of the show :P – Theoriok Jun 13 at 13:55
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If you can watch from the start...

...do. The pacing is tighter in the TV show than the books so it won't be a "wade through" (most of the minor side stories and lore didn't make the cut, and the only mention of lemon cakes is one fan-service joke where Olenna subtly teases Sansa). While Season 1 is pretty close to the books' main story, even skipping that leaves a couple of issues:

  • At least one added show-only character (Ros) who you won't recognise
  • Most of the characters look very different to their book descriptions. Many (e.g. Tywin) you'll be able to figure out from context or dialogue, but beyond the first few episodes the show expects you to recognise all the main characters' faces
  • Many characters have subtly different personalities from the start, and you get a different perspective on the characters, including scenes that couldn't fit into the books' viewpoint chapters like this one (Robert Baratheon's war stories)

Best to enjoy it all as a different story, inspired by the books. Not least because many of the things that have happened in the show beyond A Dance With Dragons (especially in Season 5) can't happen in future books, because characters are in the wrong place, or don't exist, or are too dead, or aren't dead enough...

If you really can't wait that long...

...for example if you have very limited time, an impatient viewer could skip to the start of Season 4. You'll miss a lot of great scenes (it starts shortly after Edmure's wedding), but in terms of not being confused by adaptation changes from the books, it's a good place to get on board:

  • Most of the storylines that were heavily changed from the books in earlier seasons (e.g. Arya's, Theon's, Ramsay's, Margaraey's, Jon and the wildlings) have at this moment drifted back to being pretty similar to the books, and so easy to pick up. I'm struggling to think of any major characters who are doing anything fundamentally different at this moment to what they do in the books (if I've forgotten any, drop me a comment!).
  • The most fundamental changes haven't happened yet. Season 4 is where storylines start to irreversibly diverge from the books.
  • Also, being the first episode of a season, it re-introduces the characters and main storylines somewhat, which will help orienting yourself.

You'll still probably spend some time getting your head around changes, but it'll mostly be things you can figure out, for example:

  • Characters that are missing and have been subsumed into others (e.g. there's no Garlan Tyrell, so Loras is the Tyrell son who subjected to marriage politics, no Strong Belwas, and no Bloody Mummers, instead the Boltons have a bannerman called Locke loosely based on Vargo Hoat)
  • Characters whose personalities are different or differently presented (you'll figure most of these out, e.g. Littlefinger is more of a brothel mogul and Arya is less of a sociopath)
    • A couple of things hinted at in the books are made explicit in the show in earlier seasons and you're expected to know them (that Loras is gay and was in a relationship with Renly, and that Ramsay's torture of Theon included castrating him)
  • A few relevant small details worth mentioning: the characters Arya had killed in Harrenhall are slightly different, Asha Greyjoy is renamed Yara to avoid confusion with Osha, and Balon Greyjoy is still alive.

Lots of other details were different in earlier seasons but not so much in ways that would confuse a viewer starting here.


Of course, if you're doing this, you might want to skip back a couple of episodes to Season 3 Episode 9, "The Rains Of Castermere", which is famous/notorious and one of the highest rated of the entire show. But if you're doing that, you should skip back an episode or two further to appreciate some of the foreshadowing that made it so good plus get to know a TV-show only character they created for that storyline. And if you're doing that, you might as well skip back further to Season 3 Episode 4 for the awesome Astapor scene. And if you're doing that, you should consider skipping back a few more because that too has some clever build-up scenes, and if you don't, the Ramsay scenes in these episodes won't make any sense. And if you start at the beginning of Season 3, you might as well skip back to Season 2 Episode 9 for the awesome Blackwater episode, but if you're doing that, you should skip back further else Arya's very different scenes in Harrenhall won't make sense, and if you're doing that...


Whatever you do, I'd suggest not starting after Season 4, because in Season 4 we begin to get some fundamentally different storylines and strong hints about things beyond A Dance With Dragons (particularly in Bran's storyline).

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