This is never mentioned in the book but I'm wondering if there was a way to figure out how much gold Fred and George ended up winning, even if they didn't receive it.

I'm wondering if it got mentioned and I just missed it in the books?

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    They received 0% of their winnings, so "nothing" – Valorum Jul 28 '17 at 19:09

Unfortunately we don't know. While we know how much Fred and George bet, we don't know what the odds were, so we can't calculate the winnings.

‘We’ll bet thirty-seven Galleons, fifteen Sickles, three Knuts,’ said Fred, as he and George quickly pooled all their money, ‘that Ireland win – but Viktor Krum gets the Snitch. Oh, and we’ll throw in a fake wand.’

‘You don’t want to go showing Mr Bagman rubbish like that –’ Percy hissed, but Bagman didn’t seem to think the wand was rubbish at all; on the contrary, his boyish face shone with excitement as he took it from Fred, and when the wand gave a loud squawk and turned into a rubber chicken, Bagman roared with laughter.

‘Excellent! I haven’t seen one that convincing in years! I’d pay five Galleons for that!

Percy froze in an attitude of stunned disapproval.

‘Boys,’ said Mr Weasley under his breath, ‘I don’t want you betting... that’s all your savings... your mother –’

‘Don’t be a spoilsport, Arthur!’ boomed Ludo Bagman, rattling his pockets excitedly. ‘They’re old enough to know what they want! You reckon Ireland will win but Krum’ll get the Snitch? Not a chance, boys, not a chance... I’ll give you excellent odds on that one... we’ll add five Galleons for the funny wand, then, shall we...’

Mr Weasley looked on helplessly as Ludo Bagman whipped out a notebook and quill and began jotting down the twins’ names.

‘Cheers,’ said George, taking the slip of parchment Bagman handed him and tucking it away carefully.
Goblet of Fire - Chapter 7: Bagman and Crouch

(emphasis mine)

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    While we don't know exactly, the odds of that have to be really low. For one thing, its worth 15 times more than a normal score. For another, since it ends the game, there's no good reason to actually snatch it if you are so far behind. That would effectively lose your side the match. This would be worse than a football team engaging in clock-killing play while behind. You'd to better to wait until your team manages to get the score within 150 points, and in the meantime try to decoy or interfere with the other seeker. – T.E.D. Jul 28 '17 at 20:28
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    @T.E.D. Unless your team is so far behind both in score and talent, which is what the twins were counting on, and what happened. – Xavon_Wrentaile Jul 29 '17 at 1:31
  • @T.E.D. you mean, high odds, not low quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/high-odds-or-low-odds, right? – Ekaterin Nile Jul 29 '17 at 9:16
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    Hm. After a bit of deliberation, i marked it as 'not an answer', as it is more of the expansion of the Q, really. After all, while we dont know the odds we know that 1. They were high 2. What the twins planned to do with it (joke shop) 3.data about the price of merchandise in such a shop. Also knowing JKR's approach to math and Harry's impression that his TWT winnings would compensate the twins we can make an educated guess about the amount to narrow it down. While there could be cases where "we don't know" is a legitimate answer, here it's not the case. – Ekaterin Nile Jul 29 '17 at 12:33

1000 Galleons

That is how much Harry gave them (his Triwizard prize) to make up for them being cheated by Ludo Bagman.

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    That wasn't their bet winnings. It was an unrelated donation from Harry, probably exceeding the amount they would have actually won. – The Dark Lord Jul 29 '17 at 7:36
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    @TheDarkLord i duno if it's unrelated. It seems the twins thought that if they'll get their winnings, they'd get the capital to open a joke shop, then Harry happened to win a lot of gold which was apparently enough for the twins to open a joke shop. Probably the two amounts are close. After all Ludo thought the bet was crazy. – Ekaterin Nile Jul 29 '17 at 8:42
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    @Nahiri And that would make the odds around 20 to 1. Which doesn't seem unreasonably high, given the (apparent) ridiculousness of Krum grabbing the Snitch when they're more than 150 points down. – owjburnham Jul 29 '17 at 8:53
  • @owjburnham yep, they needed sthg extreme to bet to get nuff galleons for their plan and apparently knew the strong points & weaknesses of both teams 2b right. Seeing that most of the wizards present were also quidditch fans knowledgeable about the subject it seems a bit far fetched that no one else but the twins thought of this bet and were able to place such high odds. But then i know zero about sports betting. .. – Ekaterin Nile Jul 29 '17 at 9:11

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