In the most recent episode of Game of Thrones (season 7, episode 5), Bran Stark uses ravens to spy on the Night King. My question is... why? I was under the impression greenseers such as Bran could see the everything in the present.

  • 12
    I interprete it the way that the library he downloaded into his brain doesn't have a good search functionality. In theory, he can see everything, in practice he's not yet at the point where he can willingly choose what to see. Warging into some ravens is much easier for now.
    – Annatar
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 7:07
  • @Annatar This makes a lot of sense to me. It seems that Bran might need a trigger so that he "remembers" stuff (are you remembering current events such as spying?). For example being in the Godswood with Sansa reminds him of her wedding night.
    – josh
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 14:44
  • @Annatar Guess some maesters need to start writing the google spell.
    – Shane
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 20:14
  • As far as I remember Greenseers don't always see everything as they were everywhere simultaneously, but rather they can literally see the world though different eyes. There are a lot of ravens. AND, while watching the episode I felt like it is some kind of precausion. Yes, he is ONE of the ravens, but please, dear Knight King, find out which of the big flock it is. We already know the Knight King can get to Bran when he is warging, so being a sitting duck (literally) may be unwise. Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 8:50

2 Answers 2


In the books, it's clear that Bran can't see everything but can only see events occurring within sight of a weirwood tree. His use of ravens may be warging, unrelated to his greenseer power, since several Starks seem to have some ability in that direction.

  • 4
    I do recall GRRM saying all Stark children show the gift of warging. +1.
    – Aegon
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 6:28
  • 29
    Bran can see events that are nowhere near a weirwood tree. He saw how Lyanna Stark died inside the Tower of Joy. I don't think there was a tree growing inside her bedroom. From that scene, I assumed he can see anywhere and anywhen.
    – RichS
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 6:43
  • 3
    @RichS I agree that is problematic, and has not yet been explained either in the books or the TV show. Perhaps he can also tap the collective memory of the Starks.
    – Mike Scott
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 6:51
  • 9
    Remember when Bran used the tree to see the army of the dead and then the king grabbed his arm? If he uses ravens instead (by whatever mechanism) he is safe from that kind of thing. Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 11:39
  • 2
    some other possible explanations: maybe he can not control what he sees. Maybe even if he sees the Night Kings's army he can't tell where on the map they are, or even if what he sees is in the present or in the past.
    – bolov
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 12:38

I originally thought that Bran sees through the Weirwood Trees, but he is the three-eyed raven, so I guess he can see through their eyes too. But some of the guys in this thread are correct - it seems that Bran can see things that are not in line-of-sight of either Tree or Animal.

So now I'm thinking Bran can tap into the "sight" (senses I guess) of any living thing; perhaps Bran can see through the eyes of men too - after all he can Warg into Hodor, which is something 'no-one' can do according to Jojen Reed.

Seeing as how the White Walkers are not men and their army are dead, Bran would have to send a living organism into what is essentially a lifeless desert.

  • 3
    warg into hodor....The term is Skin Changing. Warging is when a Skin Changer takes control of a member of the Canine species i.e. Dogs or Wolves. Since Hodor is neither dog nor Wolf, it isn't warging .All Wargs are skin changers but not all skin changers are Wargs.
    – Aegon
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 8:33
  • 2
    @Aegon: This appears to be a difference between the books and the TV show.
    – psmears
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 10:30
  • 2
    Jojen is wrong. Varamyr was able to skin-change into 'Thistle'. This was unsuccessful because of her extreme mental and physical resistance - to the point of self-mutilation - but there didn't seem to be a fundamental reason why 'the Gift' wouldn't work on humans. Perhaps a child would be easier to control. Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 15:41
  • 3
    @TheMathemagician Was it no one can do it, or no one should do it? Bran skin-changing into Hodor was clearly a big no-no.
    – Llewellyn
    Commented Aug 17, 2017 at 17:42
  • @Llewellyn Indeed. Varamyr recalls his training days when his mentor told him that skin changing into a human is "abomination". It can be done but it shouldn't be done.
    – Aegon
    Commented Aug 18, 2017 at 7:57

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.