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With the "the last Jedi" theories going around, isn't Jedi more or less a certification or title granted by the Jedi order (analogous to being knighted)?

If so then isn't Luke technically not a Jedi since the Jedi order didn't official proclaim him as a Jedi?

One could just assume Jedi means "light side force users". If that's the case then certainly a "master" requires some sort of certification. Perhaps Luke is a Jedi but is he not a Jedi Master? Anakin was pissed about being on the council without being recognized as a Master.

As for the title "Return of the Jedi" it could simply be Anakin rejoining the light side.

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Yoda (the sole remaining Jedi Master) sets one very specific precondition on Luke being able to call himself a Jedi, that he has to confront Vader.

“No more training do you require,” Yoda assured him. “Already know you that which you need.”

“Then I am a Jedi?” Luke pressed. No. He knew he was not, quite. Something still lacked.

Yoda wrinkled up his wizened features. “Not yet. One thing remains. Vader … Vader you must confront. Then, only then, a full Jedi you’ll be. And confront him you will, sooner or later.”

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Official Novelisation

Since he accomplishes this later in the film, it's fair to say that he's a Jedi.


  • Vader thinks Luke is a Jedi.

Vader seemed almost to smile through his mask at his son’s use of Jedi voice-manipulation. He looked down at the lightsaber the captain had given him—Luke’s lightsaber. So the boy was truly a Jedi now. A man grown. He held the lightsaber up. “You have constructed another.”

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Official Novelisation

  • Luke thinks he's a Jedi.

He hurled his lightsaber away. “Never! Never will I turn to the dark side! You have failed, Palpatine. I am a Jedi, as my father was before me.”

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Official Novelisation

  • The Emperor thinks Luke is a Jedi

The Emperor’s glee turned to a sullen rage. “So be it, Jedi. If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed.”

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Official Novelisation


It's also worth noting the film's official novelisation explicitly calls him a Jedi Knight pretty consistently throughout the book.

The monster then turned and started for Luke. But the Jedi Knight leaped eight meters straight up and grabbed onto the overhead grate. The crowd began to boo. Hand over hand, Luke traversed the grating toward the corner of the cave, struggling to maintain his grip as the audience jeered his efforts. One hand slipped on the oily grid, and he dangled precariously over the baying mutant.

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Official Novelisation

The (fully canon) Ultimate Star Wars reference book calls him a Jedi in the timeline on Luke's page.

Jedi Luke Skywalker demands Jabba release Han Solo

The (fully canon) Star Wars in 100 Scenes factbook agrees.

Desperate, the young Jedi [Luke] calls out to his gravely wounded father for help.

and so does the official StarWars.com Databank article on Luke.

Luke Skywalker was a Tatooine farmboy who rose from humble beginnings to become one of the greatest Jedi the galaxy has ever known.

Interestingly, the (canon) Star Wars Made Easy: A Beginner's Guide to a Galaxy Far, Far Away factbook pinpoints the precise moment that Luke becomes a fully fledged Jedi, when he casts aside his lightsaber during his duel with Vader.

SO HE IS A JEDI?

No. Luke does call himself a Jedi Knight when he goes to Jabba’s palace, but it is not until later that he truly becomes one by renouncing the dark side, even though it will likely cost him his life.

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    @AdamGent - A Jedi "Master" is simply a Jedi Knight who's trained another Jedi to knighthood. – Valorum Oct 11 '17 at 17:54
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    @AdamGent I wonder if you could make the argument that Luke "trained" Vader in the last few minutes of his life. – Cort Ammon Oct 11 '17 at 20:13
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    @CortAmmon well in my opinion "Return of the Jedi" could also be interpreted the returning of Anakin to the light side (regardless of whether Luke is a Jedi or not since Jedi can be the plural form). – Adam Gent Oct 11 '17 at 20:41
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    @AdamGent - "Who is the eponymous Jedi in Return of the Jedi?" – Valorum Oct 11 '17 at 20:42
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    @Cronax - A Jedi Knight can train a Padawan (which we see happen in Star Wars: The Clones Wars with Knight Anakin Skywalker and Padawan Ahsoka Tano). When the Padawan takes the Trials and becomes a fully fledged Jedi Knight, the Knight who did the training is usually then given the title of Master. – Valorum Oct 13 '17 at 11:28
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He is a Jedi

In the absence of the Jedi council, the only surviving member was Grand Master Yoda, after Obi-Wan Kenobi died in the duel with Darth Vader. So Yoda could have announced Luke as Jedi, but did not have time, as he died prematurely.

However,

  • Luke has nearly completed his training with Yoda, so he had a proper Jedi training, although incomplete.
  • Yoda assigned him a quest (to confront and defeat Vader) which he successfully accomplished.

This makes him a Jedi. Continuing your analogy: in the old Knight novels, when a Squire is successful on a quest assigned by a King, and the King does not live to formally announce him a Knight, he is knighted by Quest.

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    "Luke, when gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." Seems kinda like Yoda proclaiming him a Jedi – Jason Baker Oct 11 '17 at 17:49
  • @JasonBaker Except that he knows he will never really be gone (ghost) and when he does die Luke (according to the accepted answer) is not yet a Jedi. – Adam Gent Oct 11 '17 at 20:42
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    @AdamGent Pretty sure he considers being a force ghost "gone" from his current existence. – Frank Hopkins Oct 12 '17 at 0:44
  • IIRC Force Ghosts will not stay around forever, at least if you accept Yoda's Quest for Qui-Gon's ghost in the Clone Wars series as canon... – Zommuter Oct 12 '17 at 7:38
  • @Zommuter If you prefer the old ways, the fading of Obi-Wan's ghost was an important point in Heir to the Empire. – KSmarts Oct 13 '17 at 16:19
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This is a interesting question, because, nobody really gives Luke the title, because there is no order to grant it. However, Luke is the return of the Jedi, and he has the training and capabilities, to be a Jedi master, after he has defeated Vader.

There is some theories, that he established the Old Jedi Council again, and was training younglings, until his nephew turned to the dark side, and killed the order and the younglings. Perhaps we will see this in The Last Jedi as a flashback..

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    CAn you expand on how you come to the conculsion that Luke is the return of the Jedi and not Anakin? – Thomas Oct 12 '17 at 11:06
  • Practical, he is, Because the Jedi is destinct, when we get to episode 4. That is why nobody believes in that stuff anymore (the force). After the fall of the republic, I gues the Empire destroyed every historic evidence, of the time "before". Luke is the return of the jedi, because he is the last hope for the Jedi order and the Jedi's in general to return. However, Anakin was the Padawon, and turned sith apprentice, before reaching the rank of jedi, because the Order wouldn grand him that title, being aware that something was comming up the given time. – Anders Pedersen Oct 12 '17 at 13:47
  • Luke is not the "return of the Jedi", Anakin is. – Scott Whitlock Oct 13 '17 at 16:22
  • Luke isnt a Jedi before episode 6, that is why he is "the return of the jedi", because he got his training and have now become the last jedi, and "the new hope". I atleast think so, I think that darth vader to be the jedi, is just a fan theory. He has been lost in the dark side for far too long, to ever become a jedi again. He has been sucked into the dark side, and now only have the powers of the sith. You can't become a Jedi after what his been doing.. – Anders Pedersen Oct 18 '17 at 7:10

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