I realize Darth Bane's philosophy mandated there being two Sith at a time;

"A master and an apprentice".

But what about all the other guys? I mean, the Dark Side is tempting - what about everyone with a flair for the Force who get drawn to using it through passion? Do they wait in line? Do they all get killed?

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    Being a dark side user doesn't make you a Sith.
    – Valorum
    Commented Oct 14, 2017 at 19:14
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    Dooku has an apprentice (Ventress) at the same time that he and Sidious are the two Sith. The whole point is that there are only two dark side Force users who are official Sith.
    – Valorum
    Commented Oct 14, 2017 at 19:23
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    Chirrut has the light side of the Force, but he's not a Jedi. 'Sith' is a specific sect of dark-siders, of which one enduring ideology says there shall only be two Sith Lords. That the two Lords are constantly cultivating apprentices for their eventual removal of the other Lord testifies that it's central to their thinking.
    – user33616
    Commented Oct 14, 2017 at 19:31
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    "Also, again, suppose I really dig the dark side, I think Vader is the man, I made a lightsaber, I choke people with my mind etc..." All of that just makes you a dark side user. Again, the Sith are a specific order not a term for all users of the dark side. Commented Oct 14, 2017 at 22:56
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    You seem to be arguing really hard against the rules of a weird sci-fi sect. They made the rules. If the two Sith say nobody else gets to be Sith, then nobody does. I don't really... understand your objection. Are you asking if this rule is benefitial to the Sith, or whether it would actually work, or what?
    – Andres F.
    Commented Oct 15, 2017 at 4:12

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The philosophy behind the rule of two is that the greater power triumphs, before it was instituted there was a problem where dark lords were defeated not just by apprentices that had surpassed them but by multiple apprentices banding together temporarily so they may strike down their master.

This leads to a net loss in power for the Dark Side, so the economical thing to do would be to come up with a system where the Sith Master is only discarded when somebody stronger arrives. Or, to quote the relevant book:

"When your power eclipses mine I will become expendable. This is the Rule of Two: one Master and one apprentice. When you are ready to claim the mantle of Dark Lord as your own, you must do so by eliminating me."
Darth Bane: The Rule of Two

This by no means excludes other dark side users from existing, but the underlying assumption (which in the end is really quite arrogant) is that the only person who might possibly hope to take down the Sith Master is his or her own Sith Apprentice, anybody else would be too weak especially since the Apprentice would defend his Master.

No, somebody who wants to be a Sith would instead go after the Apprentice, in the hopes that killing him or her they can impress the Master enough to become the new Apprentice.
The lethal competition that is so crucial to the proper functioning of the Dark Side / Sith continues, but the knowledge possessed by the Master will generally be transferred to the next generation.

  • So everybody else is merely not called "Sith" and there are a bunch of "Dark" force users.
    – einpoklum
    Commented Oct 16, 2017 at 7:01
  • In the particular case of Dark Sidious he breached the rule. He gave some training to many dark force users. He planned to become immortal.
    – xrorox
    Commented Oct 16, 2017 at 7:29

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