In the Voyager episode The Q and the Grey, Q wants to have a child with Janeway because there hasn't been a new Q in billions of years and he wants to mix up the Continuum (to save it). But this statement would seem to over look Amanda Rogers from True Q (TNG).

Is there a canon explanation for this conflict of facts, or was this merely an oversight on the part of the writers?

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    Trying to research this brings up WAY too many out-of-the-weird-corner-of-Internet fanfics. +1 anyway. May 30, 2012 at 17:40
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    @DVK ....link? >_>
    – user1027
    May 30, 2012 at 17:42
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    @Keen - I shall most certainly refrain from being a party to disseminating such dreadful things as those. May 31, 2012 at 3:01

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From the synopsis of True Q that you linked to:

[Q] then reveals that Amanda is a Q, shocking everyone else. When Crusher claims Amanda's birth parents were Human, Q reveals they were members of the Q Continuum who had assumed Human form.

I can only surmise that since both Amanda's parents were members of the Q Continuum that in that case there was no introduction of the human DNA that he was looking for with Janeway.

This is further evidenced by:

...the real reason for [Q's] examination was to determine if Amanda was actually a Q or some sort of hybrid that would have to be exterminated.

He is sent there to make sure that she is not a hybrid but a full "Q".

From The Q and the Grey:

He then explains that he wishes to end the war by adding Human DNA into the Continuum and having a baby, something that hasn't been done before.

The episode does end with the "solution" being Q mating with a female Q, however it is not stated that this act of procreation had "never been done before" but rather that adding human DNA had not.

Edit: As pointed out by @bitmask in the comments, there also was a difference in the erm...mating procedures for the two "Q" children. Which may lead to Q's presumption that what he was wont to do had not been done before: E.T. and Star Wars are in the same universe but I don't think E.T. and Star Trek are, so the mating ritual was unique in-universe.

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    In addition to this explanation: It is reasonable to assume Amanda was conceived while her parents were in human form, using conventional human means. Junior however was conceived with the weird E.T. technique. So that should make a difference.
    – bitmask
    May 30, 2012 at 18:03
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    The fact that having a child with Lady Q appeased Q's desire for a child makes me wonder whether the desire for human DNA was actual, or if mentioning that was simply Q attempting to appeal to Janeway and make her more amenable to the proposition.
    – Xantec
    May 30, 2012 at 18:07
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    @Xantec ... new pick up line for the bars? "I desire the addition of your human DNA, it's never been done before."
    – NominSim
    May 30, 2012 at 18:10
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    @NominSim: I see that line working very well for women, but not on women. ;)
    – gnovice
    May 30, 2012 at 18:12
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    @gnovice That is basically the plot of Species
    – NominSim
    May 30, 2012 at 18:13

To pull a quote directly from The Q and the Grey:

"Even if I wanted to mate, I wouldn't know how. It's totally unprecedented." - Q

"You'll figure something out. You are omnipotent, after all." - Janeway

"I need time to think about it." - Q

What has never been done before, was two Q having a child. Amanda Rogers' parents did choose human form, and conceived her as humans. And as we saw in Deja Q, the Q have no difficulty in becoming human.

There's even a quote from Q in True Q that supports this (emphasis mine):

They had assumed human form, in order to visit Earth, I suppose. For.. for amusement. But in vulgar human fashion, they proceeded to conceive a child. And then like mawkish humans, they became attached to it.

This is further supported in the series of (non-canon) novels The Q Continuum, where the female Q from The Q and the Grey states that Amanda Rogers "doesn't count".

So no, the Q didn't forget about Amanda Rogers. She just wasn't conceived of two Q.

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