4

I heard someone claim that it was definitely possible for (MCU) sorcerers to master individual use of each of the stones, but gave nothing to back that up other than the fact that sorcerers were able to develop ways to master (or at least control pretty well) the powers of the Time Stone. "Mastery" would be a level of skill at which the person could have total access to the full scope of a stone's power with minimal difficulty when they so desired, and without losing control of said power.

If no MCU evidence to support this idea exists, it is fine to make reference to the comics as a possible guide, even if the continuity surrounding the stones isn't necessarily the same, but please note if there's no MCU evidence in support of this claim. Is there anything in the comics to back up sorcerers being able to master each of the stones individually?

Is it a fair assumption that just because magic works for one stone, it'll absolutely work for all of them in a way that could give them the same level of control over each of the other stones, or are the stones different enough that we can't assume this to be true with such certainty?

With how much certainty can this claim of mastery be made?

closed as primarily opinion-based by Paulie_D, CBredlow, JohnP, Rogue Jedi, Skooba Dec 6 '17 at 17:30

Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

  • 1
    You tagged with MCU but are asking about comics? Could you clarify here? – amflare Dec 6 '17 at 16:00
  • 1
    What's your definition of "master" for the purposes of this question? – Anthony Grist Dec 6 '17 at 16:00
  • I'm talking about MCU sorcerers specifically. It's fine to reference the comics even if they can't be assumed to have the same continuity surrounding the stones, if the MCU doesn't give any evidence on the matter. – Avant Guard Dec 6 '17 at 16:05
  • It's hard to describe it in specific terms, but I guess "mastery" would be a skill level at which the stone's user can use the stone in question with little difficulty and have total access to the full scope of its powers whenever they so desire. – Avant Guard Dec 6 '17 at 16:12
  • @AvantGuard So your question is- "With sufficient time and practice/resources, is it possible for Doc Strange to use the Infinity gems to their full potential & contain their power without losing control?" Did i get it right? – Shreedhar Dec 6 '17 at 16:17
4

Speaking exclusively from the MCU, it's hard to say (yet)

While we can't say definitively from what we've seen so far, we can potentially infer some truths from what the movies have shown us.

Of the stones encountered, all of them were able to be used/handled by when properly contained, while being less predictable when handled directly. The more powerful the being, the more likely they will be able to control/survive them directly.

Here's what we've seen:

  • The Tesseract (space gem) could be utilized, but not directly held without consequences, at least by humans. I suspect Asgardians might be able to, although Thor only ever uses it in the container.
  • The Chitari scepter (mind gem) was usable when within in the scepter, and outside by Vision (who might be regarded as sufficiently powerful enough).
  • The Aether (reality gem) could be handled inside its container, but was at the very least harmful to others (and while relatively slow, was killing Jane when she was hosting it).
  • The Orb (power gem) is probably the best example of the consequences of direct use by a being lacking sufficient power. Ronan would have been overwhelmed by direct contact after some time, but was able to bond it with his hammer to utilize it in a more controlled way.
  • The Eye of Agamotto (time gem) we never see is direct contact with anyone. It's always utilized through the container that is the eye.

In all of the above examples, weaker beings (usually humans, but some others as well) are almost always overwhelmed by direct contact with an infinity gem. While sorcerers could potentially be an exception (depending on how "power" is defined, since so far it has always appeared genetic), from what we've seen so far there's a much better explanation.

Many of the housings for the gems are designed to utilize their power in a safe and controlled way (the Scepter, the Eye, and the power gem [in the hammer] namely, but the Tesseract to a lesser extent). Being that Strange has only ever used the time gem in this way, we can't really say he's truely "mastered" it at all, any more than Red Skull mastered the Tesseract, or Ronan the power gem.

So at present in the MCU, there's nothing as of yet that would allow us to know with certainty that sorcerers are capable of mastering even a single gem. Their human biology works against them, so in the end it's going to come down to how "power" is defined. I expect this will be addressed in Avengers: Infinity War, if not its sequel.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.