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In The Last Jedi, Snoke says “Finish your training... and fulfil your destiny.”

After this, Kylo kills his master and becomes a master himself.

If they are not Sith, why do they obey the Rule of Two?

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    Who says they are obeying it? He just killed him because he wanted to and wanted to rule. – TheLethalCarrot Jan 5 '18 at 11:41
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    Such a lovely tradition must be carried on to the new sect – Bardo Jan 5 '18 at 11:43
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    How do you know the Knights of Ren aren't also alive and Dark Side users? – Machavity Jan 5 '18 at 13:20
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    @JakeGould true, but the idea ends up being more vital to Palpatine (pyschologically and philosophically speaking) and his understanding of "Sith" beliefs more than anything else, except for general Master and Apprentice relationships on both sides--but I think even though Snoke/KoR are not Sith, the concept or idea of it is again displayed in TLJ, especially since Kylo asks rey to join him, so I think the question is valid to Star Wars' over all philosophy or themes about pairs and maybe paving the way to symbiotic relationships – Darth Locke Jan 5 '18 at 16:00
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    @DarthLocke Well, the theme of “The Last Jedi” seems to be “Don’t Join.” Lots of “lone wolves” in the new Star Wars universe. – JakeGould Jan 5 '18 at 16:51
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As the old Soviet joke goes, "Officer, I didn't steal those jeans. And they were dirty and all full of holes anyway!".

As such:

  1. We don't know that they follow Rule of Two in the first place, in word or even deed:

    • Supplementary fact books show that Snoke had at least another apprentice besides Emo Ren.

    • We are given strong (but not yet canon confrimed) hints that Knights of Ren are Luke's former students that left with Ben Solo. If so, clearly Snoke was teaching them too

    • Finally, it can be argued that Kylo has no apprentices after killing Snoke.

  2. Having said that, the rule of Two is not 1 to 1 associated with the Sith:

    • First, even the Sith didn't exactly obey it. For one thing, Sith before Darth Bane didn't. For another, we have tons of examples of Sidious/Vader violating it.

    • Second, Rule of Two isn't a "Sith only" thing. It's just a tactical/philosophical concept. As such, any Force user may act in the ways that follow such a rule, not because "they are following Sith ways" but because the rule makes a lot of sense (it did work out well for the Sith, after all).

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    “it can be argued that Kylo has no apprentices after killing Snoke” — absolutely, although I guess he might have thought he had one in Rey. – Paul D. Waite Jan 5 '18 at 15:14
  • Just the fact he asked her after all of that, suggest he didn't want to be alone, he feels for her, and/or that he still needed Rey for something yet to be determined. But thematically, it's no coincidence that it is calling back to "paired" relationships, and how Palpatine/Sidious psuedo operated. – Darth Locke Jan 5 '18 at 16:05
  • @DVK-on-Ahch-To: What's will all the "old Soviet jokes"?? – ThePopMachine Jan 8 '18 at 18:45
  • @ThePopMachine - I usually don't have a first clue if equivalent English speaking ones exist. i'm ESL – DVK-on-Ahch-To Jan 8 '18 at 19:01

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