As noted by Thor in Thor: Ragnarok, Hulk was the "stupid Avenger" and as we all know he really wasn't that smart in all the movies he was in - up until Thor: Ragnarok where he suddenly seems to be speaking in semi-intelligent sentences. My question is, how and when did Hulk get so smart?

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    He was always able to talk, just not when he was enraged. In he first Avengers movie he called Loki "Puni God" after fighting with Loki. I think he has some intelligence, but when he is enraged he is like a wild beastl.
    – JoeryJV
    Commented Feb 28, 2018 at 12:34
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    @JoeryJV: This makes sense from Banner's perspective. Initially, he hated the Hulk and tried to hide him. Hulk only came out when Banner was so angry that he could not control himself (= Hulk is so angry that he acts like a beast). But at the end of The Avengers, Banner learns to not hide the Hulk, thus allowing him to come out at times where Banner is less-than-uncontrollably angry, thus allowing for Hulk to exist at time where he is not necessarily enraged. "Puny God" is the first occurence of Hulk speaking (iirc), and also the first occurence of Banner allowing (and trusting in) Hulk.
    – Flater
    Commented Feb 28, 2018 at 15:28
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    @Flater The first instance of Banner allowing the Hulk is in the 2008 film, when he transforms to stop Abomination, and at the end transforms in a controlled manner.
    – GreySage
    Commented Feb 28, 2018 at 18:10
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    @GreySage As far as I'm aware, Norton-Hulk is a different storyline from Ruffalo-Hulk. In The Avengers, Ruffalo-Hulk hasn't learned to control (nor trust) the Hulk yet.
    – Flater
    Commented Mar 1, 2018 at 6:45
  • @Flater Both Norton and Ruffalo are both in the MCU. It was only an actor change. Banner has been consistent.
    – krillgar
    Commented Mar 1, 2018 at 13:06

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According to director Taika Waititi, just in time for filming1.

1And by that I obviously mean, while on Sakaar.

In an interview with CBR, Taika Waititi revealed that Hulk's time on Sakaar allowed him to become more comfortable in his green skin and learn about himself:

Yeah, that was really, just like with Chris, just wanting make it more interesting for Mark to play that character, because in the films he just said one or two words and just destroyed everything, and that was the version of Hulk I think that everybody knows.

But this version -- the smarter version -- it's just become so much more interesting and engaging, because he's been the Hulk for two years. He's a hero on this planet and he's had more time to just sit with himself and feel comfortable in his own skin.
Thor: Ragnarok’s Smarter Hulk Is ‘Comfortable in His Own Skin’

On the same note, some of the features of Hulk's new "bachelor pad", namely the hot tub, aren't simply for him to splash about in, but used by Hulk to have moments of introspection.

Now you can see Hulk sitting still and being kind of like a big silverback. There’s there’s this moment when he’s in the hot tub in his apartment – he just feels like General [Colonel] Kurtz in Apocalypse Now. He’s just sitting there, just contemplating things and you can feel him probably ruminating over all sorts of stuff inside his head. And that introspective, that very still version of Hulk, I think is way more fascinating than the guy that just destroys everything.

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    because he's been the Hulk for two years Don't forget, that's two Earth years (or years according to Thor), so who knows how long he's been on Sakaar.
    – Möoz
    Commented Mar 1, 2018 at 1:13
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    @Möoz Two years, it says it right there in the quote.
    – Edlothiad
    Commented Mar 1, 2018 at 6:44
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    @Edlothiad The quote does not make any mention of whether they are earth years or years of local time, which might be different. Therefore, the statement holds.
    – Cronax
    Commented Mar 1, 2018 at 9:27
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    @Cronax the film states it's been two Earth years, and supposedly far more on Sakaar. Given the quote say two years, one can assume the supposition from the film to have been an exaggeration.
    – Edlothiad
    Commented Mar 1, 2018 at 9:28
  • @Edlothiad You seem to be disregarding the possibility that time might pass differently on Sakaar. Just because on Earth, it feels like two years have passed, doesn't mean that it can't feel like more time has passed if you spend it elsewhere.
    – Cronax
    Commented Mar 6, 2018 at 8:33

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