In Justice League (2017), Steppenwolf figures out that Wonder Woman has "the power of the Old Gods". He then derisively remarks:

The Old Gods died.

But I don't see how he can know that. We see the Old Gods (including Ares) fighting against Steppenwolf's original invasion, so we know that it took place before Ares killed them all. It's possible that some of them died during Steppenwolf's invasion, but he seems to be aware that they're all now dead.

How does Steppenwolf know this? Did he just deduce it from their absence? Or is this a continuity error?

  • They were all killed during the War of the Gods apart from Ares who was eventually killed by Wonder Woman. As for how Steppenwolf knows, I'm not sure.
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 13:01
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    Perhaps it was in the intergalictic news....seems like a big enough story.
    – Paulie_D
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 13:20
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    Well, he was up-to-date for all current events including Superman's death . Him knowing about the Old Gods is quite natural then.
    – Shreedhar
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 14:01
  • @Shreedhar You got me thinking, and I think I've worked it out now... I'll write up an answer.
    – F1Krazy
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 14:10
  • You underestimated Darkseid..
    – user931
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 16:02

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@Shreedhar pointed out in the comments that Steppenwolf seems to be generally up-to-speed with events on Earth, up to and including Superman's arrival and death. I wondered how this could be, and that's when I remembered: Steppenwolf was sending out Parademons to scout Earth. We see Batman tracking one at the start of the film.

The most logical explanation, then, is that one of the Parademon scouts learned of the Old Gods' deaths, and relayed that information to Steppenwolf. Of course, that raises the question of how the Parademon found out, but that's something we probably can't answer.

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    +1 for mentioning Batman's encounter with the Parademon. I had totally forgotten about that
    – Shreedhar
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 14:46
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    I don't know much about Parademons... but I would argue that the Parademon found out due to the lack of worship and decay of the old temples and such. Even if the Parademon never spoke to anyone and only observed it should easily become obvious that we are no longer worshiping in the same manner as before and all the old monuments and such are falling into decay. As well, given that Superman wasn't around during the age of the Old Gods that should signify that the Parademons have a fair amount of intelligence and did some extended research on what has been happening the last couple millennia.
    – Odin1806
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 17:17
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    @Odin1806 I suppose that's true. He could have meant it in a Nietzsche-esque metaphorical manner, without knowing they really were dead.
    – F1Krazy
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 17:29
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    @F1Krazy - I think it would be safe to assume he knew they were actually dead. In that scene from the movie when everyone fought Steppenwolf the first time, there were Parademons there. I would think that the Old Gods would have noticed Parademons showing up again and taking them out or something. The fact they didn't I think plays to the idea he knew they were gone as well. Maybe? - Battle isabout a minute in on this clip youtube.com/watch?v=2frgpxNw5UY
    – Odin1806
    Commented Mar 9, 2018 at 18:02

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