We know that Dooku paid the Pyke syndicate to kill Sifo-Dyas sometime during the chancellorship of Finis Valorum. We know that because Valorum personally sent Sifo-Dyas to negotiate with the Pykes.

We also know that Darth Maul was bisected and went missing in last days of Valorum's rule, during the Naboo crisis.

Since Jedi do not kill fellow Jedi, this raises the question: did Dooku fall to the Dark Side and become the apprentice of Sidious before Maul was bisected?

P.S. In S06E10 of Clone Wars it is revealed that Dooku used his Sith name (Tyranus) to introduce himself to the Pyke syndicate when he contracted for the murder of Syfo-Dias. Since an apprentice usually gets his name from his master when he joins the Sith, this leaves even less chance that Dooku was not a Sith at that time.

To further complicate the matter, in Legends Sidious killed his master Plagueis on the night when he become chancellor, thus implying we had four Sith (instead of two) roaming about at some point in time.

  • It was known at the time that Dooku fell to the Dark Side, but it was not clear was he affiliated with the Sith or not.
    – TimSparrow
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 18:09
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    @TimSparrow Why would he kill Sifo-Dyas if he did not know Sith Grand Plan with Clone Army ?
    – rs.29
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 18:11
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    Technically this is not possible because of the Rule of Two. Only one of them would be considered the "true" apprentice even if both were under training by Sidious at the same time. Of course, Sidious had multiple "apprentices" at varying points in time in Legends.
    – Null
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 18:16
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    In the now legends novel "Darth Plagueis", Sidious had a young Maul as an apprentice while he was still Plagueis' apprentice himself. It's not like the bad guys follow the rules all the time...even their own.
    – tilley31
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 20:44
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    @tilley31 Yes, but that novel never mentions Dooku being apprentice at the same time. And that would be a huge thing, considering that Dooku was even more powerful then Maul.
    – rs.29
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 23:09

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In Tales of the Jedi Episode 4: The Sith Lord, Dooku meets with Sidious during the events of The Phantom Menace, after Darth Maul is believed dead. He and Sidious make reference to orders that Sidious has been giving and Dooku has been following ("Sifo-Dyas, Kamino, the clones"). While it's not clear if Dooku was yet Sidious's official Sith apprentice, by the end he refers to Sidious as "Master".


In Legends, Dooku did not leave the Jedi Order until after Qui-Gon's death, and while Sidious was meeting with Dooku, and presumably manipulating him, Sidious did not give Dooku the name Darth Tyranus until after Qui-Gon had gone.

From Star Wars wikia - Leaving the Order

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    This directly contradicts canon information that Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas while Valorum was still chancellor.
    – rs.29
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 23:06
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    That's probably because Legends and Canon contradict each other a lot
    – Josh
    Commented Sep 23, 2019 at 7:15

We don’t know when Darth Plagueis dies in canon so that’s not a problem. But Dave Filoni said in an interview that he ran into this problem when writing the episodes about Sifo Dyas. So yes Sidious had two apprentices at the same time. As for the rule of two I think Sidious never intended to have Dooku be his apprentice permanently unlike Maul.

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    Could you edit in a link to the interview and the quote from Dave Filoni to back this answer up? At the moment it answers the question but requires the reader to go find the evidence themselves. It could be a good answer if you edited it in though.
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Commented May 19, 2020 at 11:22
  • In one of the first scenes of episode III, Sidious has a long speech in which he explains that he believes in human supremacy and that he never intended for Maul to be a long-term apprentice, because Maul was "just an animal". (This scene is cut in some of the releases - I've seen it when I first saw episode III in a theater, and it can be found in DVDs, but whenever episode III is broadcasted on TV that scene appears to be left out)
    – Stef
    Commented Feb 29 at 11:56

No, due to the rule of two, Sidious would be unable to take 2 apprentices at one time. The rule of two stated only two Sith could be at the top of the Empire (one Sith lord and his apprentice = Sidious and Maul). Dooku left Sidious's apprenticeship before he took on Maul.

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    Do you have any evidence of such?
    – Edlothiad
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 19:09
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    Gosh cause baddies have never broken rules :)
    – Naib
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 20:02
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    Sith following rules? Yeah, right.
    – T.J.L.
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 20:25
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    Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 21:22

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