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I got what would happen to it after the natural death of the owner (power of the wand breaks) but will the same happen if the owner commits suicide?

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    Or slips in the bathtub or chokes on one of Bertie Botts beans or .... – JRE Oct 31 '18 at 16:38
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    Then the bean becomes master of the wand as it defeated it's former master? :p – Sava Oct 31 '18 at 16:47
  • @Sava Would the bean then have to die a natural death for the power to break? But isn't being eaten a natural death for a jellybean? But then the person who ate it would be master of the... Wait a minute... – Misha R Nov 1 '18 at 6:48
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Ownership of the Elder Wand is based on defeating its former owner, in whatever way one can. It can be through magical duel, outright assassination or simple tug-o-war, as seen when Harry grabs the Elder Wand out of Draco Malfoy's hand.

Thus, if the owner of the wand would commit suicide without having been defeated since becoming the owner, then the power of the wand would also break, as there would be no one to take ownership of it since the current owner was not defeated by anyone.

It is explained by Harry Potter to Voldemort quite clearly in Chapter 36 of The Deathly Hallows:

“Aren’t you listening? Snape never beat Dumbledore! Dumbledore’s death was planned between them! Dumbledore intended to die undefeated, the wand’s last true master! If all had gone as planned, the wand’s power would have died with him, because it had never been won from him!”

Basically, Dumbledore planned his suicide with the assistance of Severus Snape. If it had worked as planned, then the power of the Elder Wand would have been broken.

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    Um, when does Harry grab the Elder Wand (or any wand) out of Malfoy's hand? – OrangeDog Oct 31 '18 at 17:10
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    @OrangeDog I think they're referring to when Harry disarmed Draco... though Draco did not have the Elder Wand but a different one. – TheLethalCarrot Oct 31 '18 at 17:12
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The power of the Elder Wand is broken if the owner dies a natural death without having been defeated.

I’m putting the Elder Wand,” he told Dumbledore, who was watching him with enormous affection and admiration, “back where it came from. It can stay there. If I die a natural death like Ignotus, its power will be broken, won’t it? The previous master will never have been defeated. That’ll be the end of it.”

Dumbledore nodded. They smiled at each other.

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 36, "The Flaw in the Plan"

Considering the owner would be dead if they committed suicide whether or not that counts as defeating themselves doesn't matter. It would appear as the Elder Wand would then have no master as the master would be dead and so most likely the power would be broken.

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    > Then Harry paused for a moment, and then said to Dumbledore, "You know what? I think I'll become an Auror and get into countless magical duels and other fights against all sorts of bad guys. It'll be fine, right?" – Ellesedil Oct 31 '18 at 18:56
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    And Dumbledore continued to smile with a twinkle in his eyes. – Mohammad Zuhair Khan Nov 1 '18 at 15:44
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If the suicide has a reason behind it, such as another person causing the victim despair, I think it might be possible for the wand to recognize this emotional defeat and bow to person who caused emotional distress.

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    Hi! Can you add any reference to the books or other canonical references to support this? – DavidW Nov 1 '18 at 18:45
  • @DavidW no, I cannot. This guess - because pretty much anything we say about it will be - is primarily based on the fact that the Elder Wand recognizes various forms of defeat, including when Harry physically bested Draco (and the wand came into Harry's possession) . – kanoo Nov 2 '18 at 13:30

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