I know Amy killed Madame K in The Wedding of River Song (Season 6 Episode 13). But that took place in an alternate timeline. On the hand, at the end of that episode Amy is drinking wine because she is and she tells River

"I killed someone, Madame K."

however right after that River replies

"In an aborted timeline, in a world that never was."

So which is it, did she kill her or does it not matter because it was in an aborted timeline?

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    This is Doctor Who. Nobody is ever definitively dead. Even if it wasn't an alternate timeline, the Daleks have come back from total destruction more times than I can count. – DJClayworth Jul 5 '12 at 14:26
  • Nobody is dead unless the show producer and/or actor playing the Doctor has changed since their death. :) – dlanod Jul 6 '12 at 5:30
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    Even that doesn't help re: The Master – Ashterothi Jul 10 '12 at 17:03

Yes, Amy killed someone. That person was an aborted timeline version of Madame K. The real world version of Madame K is still out there alive.

However given Amy has the memory and psychological impacts of the death, I would take the view that Amy is now a killer despite River's reassurances.


Amy is unusual in that her character can remember things that occur in alternate universes/time lines. The Doctor once referred to this as the result of growing up next to the crack in the universe. The best example of this I can think of that was overlooked was in "The Girl Who Waited" (Season 6 Episode 10): after her older self had been locked out of the Tardis to face certain death, Amy wakes up and says, "Where is she?" SO: Madam K was not killed in Any's current time line but presumably must exist (because River remains twisted) but Amy can remember having killed her in another.

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