In The Fellowship of the Ring, when the party was at the gates of Moria, Gandalf tries to open the doors by speaking bespoke paswords. The password is actually "Mellon " but he tries various other phrases first.

What was the first password he tried?

It's possible that this is only in the movie version, as it's been quite a while since i read the book.

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    I'd recommend that you go and read the book instead of asking the question here... – TGnat Jul 10 '12 at 14:25
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    I don't recall the book giving a translation... – acolyte Jul 10 '12 at 14:27
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    That's fair, although I'd still suggest that you cite the specific words in the body of the question rather than rely on somebody else doing the research for you. – TGnat Jul 10 '12 at 14:30
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    @TGnat - asking questions the answer to which is in the source material is fully in scope. A LOT of questions on this site fall into this category. – DVK-on-Ahch-To Jul 10 '12 at 15:13
  • @acolyte - Apologies - I was certain I had a point in there somewhere... – TGnat Jul 10 '12 at 17:10

The Film

According to the Fellowship of the Ring script at Council of Elrond, in the film Gandalf first tries:

Annon Edhellen, edro hi ammen! (Gate of the Elves, open now for me!)


Fennas Nogothrim, lasto beth lammen. (Doorway of the Dwarf-folk, listen to the word of my tongue.)

Followed by:

Ando Eldarinwa…a lasta quettanya, Fenda Casarinwa… (Gate of Elves…listen to my word, Threshold of Dwarves…)

The Book

In the book, Gandalf first tries:

Annon edhellen, edro hi ammen!

Fennas nogothrim, lasto beth lammen!

Later attempts:

Many times he repeated these words in different order, or varied them. Then he tried other spells, one after another, speaking now faster and louder, now soft and slow. Then he spoke many single words of Elvish speech. Nothing happened. The cliff towered into the night, the countless stars were kindled, the wind blew cold, and the doors stood fast.

Again Gandalf approached the wall, and lifting up his arms he spoke in tones of command and rising wrath. Edro, edro! he cried, and struck the rock with his staff. Open, open! he shouted, and followed it with the same command in every language that had ever been spoken in the West of Middle-earth. Then he threw his staff on the ground, and sat down in silence.

It should probably be mentioned that in the book, 'Mellon' is Gandalf's idea (inspired by something Merry said) whereas in the film 'Mellon' is Frodo's idea.

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    in the book it was inadvertently Merry who put the idea into Gandalfs mind when he said "what does it mean by speak friend and enter?" and Gandalf says after opening the door "Merry of all people was on the right track". – phil Jul 10 '12 at 15:21
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    This is why you need to be careful and always make sure that your passwords consist of lowercase, uppercase, numerals, and punctuation marks, but most of all that they don't consist of easily guessed words or phrases. – John O Jul 10 '12 at 16:03
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    @JohnO - LOL I wonder if we switch to Sindarin for passwords would that make cracking it require a wizard? – System Down Jul 10 '12 at 16:07
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    I don't trust wizards more than any other user. Within 2 weeks we'd have lists of "the top Sindarin passwords" in all the trade rags. Though the postit notes on monitors might have cooler writing... – John O Jul 10 '12 at 16:09
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    @JohnO: yes, but you can only see the writing when you dip it into coffee. – Jeff Jul 10 '12 at 18:11

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