How would the poisoning in the premiere work?

And later:

How did the Shadows kill Kosh? Weren't the Vorlons beings of energy? How could you kill that?

Explanation about duplicate question:

I want to point that the main question is about

Kosh dead,

being the poisoning a related question added as an afterthought. So it isnt duplicate because only the poison part had been answered.

  • Antimater annihilate mater.
    – Oni
    Commented Mar 17, 2019 at 13:41
  • youtube.com/watch?v=0OI4kah6Rp4 - "Where are all the rest? They fell ill and died, were injured and died, or just left."
    – Valorum
    Commented Mar 17, 2019 at 15:16
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    Poor mater. He's just trying to be a good tow truck and friend to Lightning McQueen.
    – Alarion
    Commented Mar 17, 2019 at 18:25
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    Welcome to SciFi StackExchange. The second question about how could anybody poison (or even know how to poison) a Vorlon has already been asked on StackExchange. scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/163157/… You might want to edit your question to remove that part so it does not get flagged as a duplicate.
    – user89104
    Commented Mar 18, 2019 at 8:03
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    @LincolnMan: I did it. Thanks.
    – Spkit 2000
    Commented Mar 19, 2019 at 8:23

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This was addressed by JMS in an interview on the Midwinter site.

Q. Was he really poisoned, or just pretending? ("The Gathering")

JMS: No, he wasn't faking it. Understand that their appearance as a being of light is only how they want to appear; they are life forms much the same as many others, and can be poisoned if one knows the right combination of substances.

So, although the Vorlons have the capacity to turn themselves into beings of light (temporarily?), that doesn't make them functionally immortal against what Lorien describes as 'illness or injury', especially in fisticuffs against another being that is largely the same as themselves.

JMS noted that although the Vorlon appear as swirling light to us, there's also a "physicality" to them that allows them to be touched and to touch.

Yes, that's a Vorlon...and there was a physicality to them, shown by the fact that it could strike out and hit things. It's not a ghost or anything of that nature, it can be hurt and killed.

  • Ah! That's explain a lot. Including the scene of the last? episode of season 4 a million years after the events of the serie.
    – Spkit 2000
    Commented Mar 19, 2019 at 8:21
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    Hey! FYI! Your answer is about poisoning Vorlons, but the question was edited so it no longer mentions the poison attempt on Kosh. The question is about how the Shadows tried to kill Kosh.
    – user89104
    Commented Mar 19, 2019 at 20:02
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    @LincolnMan - Indeed. Since the two are closely related, I've rolled back the question to what OP originally intended
    – Valorum
    Commented Mar 19, 2019 at 20:12
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    But why roll back an edit that the OP made? If the OP made the edit, then result are clearly what the OP intended. If somebody else made the edit, then you might have a case for rolling back.
    – user89104
    Commented Mar 19, 2019 at 20:15
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    @LincolnMan - If a user makes a material change that invalidates existing answers, we tend to roll those back, for obvious reasons.
    – Valorum
    Commented Mar 19, 2019 at 20:30

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