Not more f***ing Elves! - Hugo Dyson

While thinking about this recent question asking who is an "Elf-Lord", I realized it would be simpler to say who among the Elves is not a Lord. Nearly every elf named by Tolkien in any of his works is a lord or noble of some sort. There are only a few instances where "common" elves appear. Some of these might be nobles anyway.

  • Daeron of Doriath, minstrel and inventor of the Cirth
  • Rúmil, a chronicler of Tirion upon Túna
  • Pengoloð, a chronicler in Beleriand in early drafts of the Silmarillion
  • Beleg the hunter of Doriath, slain by Túrin. (might be noble)
  • Lindo and Vairë, proprietors of the Cottage of Lost Play
  • Haldir, leader of the group that finds the Fellowship sans Gandalf in Lothlórien.

Of named "common" Elves, I think that's it. There are plenty of implied elves, such as the River-Elves and Círdan's mariners, but there are only a few others pointed out specifically:

  • the steward and the prison guard in Thranduil's halls
  • the guys under Haldir
  • the Elves who taunt Bilbo and the dwarves as they enter Rivendell

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  • Legolas is not a Lord, his father currently has the title. Similarly the sons of Elrond. – OrangeDog Apr 7 at 13:40
  • @Valorum Yeah, this wasn't the best thought-out question -- you hit No True Scotsman with every step. – Spencer Apr 7 at 13:47
  • @OrangeDog - being a member of a royal dynasty makes Legolas higher than a commoner, and probably the sons of Elrond too. In modern times the children of a monarch are called princes and princesses, in medieval times they were called lords and ladies. – M. A. Golding Apr 7 at 13:47
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    Gandalf refers to Glorfindel as "an Elf-lord of a house of princes"; you don't need to have the title "Lord" (uppercase) to be a lord (lowercase). – chepner Apr 21 at 16:49