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In S08E03 Melisandre says something to Arya that calls back to season one to motivate her. specifically she asks

What do we say to the God of Death?

Arya seeing her purpose clearly is responds

Not Today

Are Syrio and Melisandre connected somehow? If so how? Or is this just Melisandre magic?

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    No, they're not connected, Melisandre just seems to conveniently know what she needs to know, without explanation. – Möoz Apr 30 at 1:38
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    @Möoz It may be that this is common culture in Essos, where both Syrio and Melisandre hail from (though they come from different cities/regions in Essos). – Andres F. Apr 30 at 13:52
  • @Möoz There is too an explanation! – Attack Helicopter Apr 30 at 21:09
  • @AndresF. I'd doubt that. "Valar Morghulis/Dohaeris" is to be seen as 'common', so it is repeated often, so is "A Lannister always pays his debts", but the "..not today" is mentioned once only. It's too specific to be a common phrase. – Möoz Apr 30 at 23:54
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    This is just Bravosi for "Not today, Satan" :) – Geobits May 1 at 12:42
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No, there is no connection between Syrio and Melisandre. As @Mooz put in comments "Melisandre just seems to conveniently know what she needs to know, without explanation".

This is same as when she uttered Ygritte's word "You know nothing, Jon Snow" to Jon.

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    Without explanation? We know she has visions in the flames. Sometimes she doesn't interpret them correctly but that doesn't make them fake. It is not impossible that she saw those interactions in the flames. – Attack Helicopter Apr 30 at 20:56
  • When I initially made that comment, I intended it to mean that she knows in some way that's not explained. Visions? Flame-chat? Weirwood dream? Something else?... It doesn't matter, she knows in some way, but we just don't know how. It's also convenient because, well, she pulls it out of nowhere. – Möoz Apr 30 at 23:56
  • I am sure she sees things in pieces, probably she saw Aryas face, then heard Syrio say "What do we say to the God of Death", and then Arya replying back, and all, the Lord of Light just had to give her the signal. She don't exactly have to know Syrio – Deepak Kamat May 1 at 20:09
  • Her visions are not as vivid(interactive?) as Bran's. They show her glimpses not the actual conversations between two people. I dont remember any passage from the books/show explaining how she knows the conversations(dialogs exchanged) between two people. – John Shepard May 2 at 5:18
  • @Skooba We have no clear idea of what her limitations are, or where exactly her power comes from. This makes for a very confusing character, since she can basically just pop out and know things / do things that are conveniently appropriate to the moment. Sure, we have some vague pseudo-information, what with R'hllor, visions and leeches and blood and all - but nothing that would allow us to expect something from her, or to be surprised by her. She just kind of does / knows things occasionally as the show's writers wish. Thus, without explanation. – Misha R May 5 at 20:36
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There is no real connection between them. We do not seem them physically cross paths while both are alive.

Melisandre is from Asshai and is worshipper of R'hllor. This following there are two gods, the god of fire/light (R'hllor) and the god of ice/darkness (the Great Other).

Syrio is from Bravos and seems to practice the religion of the Faceless Men. In that following there is only "one" god, the god of death (although he has many faces and as we learn from Jaqen the "red god" is one of them).

However there is a good reason that Melisandre knows words spoken between characters when no one else was around... she has visions in the flames! She can see events in the past, present, and future. While she doesn't always interpret them correctly there is no reason why she could not see these specific interactions and repeat a single line she heard.

[Melisandre] When I gaze into the flames, I can see through stone and earth, and find the truth within men's souls. I can speak to kings long dead and children not yet born, and watch the years and seasons flicker past, until the end of days.

[Jon] Are your fires never wrong?

[Melisandre] Never ... though we priests are mortal and sometimes err, mistaking this must come for this may come.

A Dance with Dragons, Chapter 3, Jon I

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