In Chapter Thirty-Three of Goblet of Fire Voldemort says:

What I was, even I do not know... I, who have gone further than anybody along the path that leads to immortality. You know my goal – to conquer death. And now, I was tested, and it appeared that one or more of my experiments had worked... for I had not been killed, though the curse should have done it.

The words "one or more of my experiments" imply that Voldemort had other potential protections against death in addition to Horcruxes. In Chapter Twenty-Three of Half-Blood Prince Dumbledore cites this line to Harry as part of his explanation about how they could kill Voldemort if they destroy his Horcruxes:

Then you told me, two years later, that on the night that Voldemort returned to his body, he made a most illuminating and alarming statement to his Death Eaters. ‘I who have gone further than anybody along the path that leads to immortality.’ That was what you told me he said. 'Further than anybody!' And I thought I knew what that meant, though the Death Eaters did not. He was referring to his Horcruxes, Horcruxes in the plural, Harry, which I don’t believe any other wizard has ever had.

Dumbledore used this as evidence that Voldemort had done more than any other wizard to protect against death by making multiple Horcruxes. Yet he apparently did not use this as evidence that Voldemort had also taken additional measures besides Horcruxes to prevent death; in fact, he left out that part of the quote entirely.

This is a glaring omission of utmost significance – Dumbledore's entire plan relied on rendering Voldemort mortal by destroying his Horcruxes, which wouldn't work if Voldemort's other experiments made him immortal anyway.

What's going on here?

  • Did Dumbledore forget this part of the quote?
  • Did Harry leave out that part of the quote when telling Dumbledore the story?
  • Did Dumbledore fail to understand the implication?
  • Did Dumbledore have reason to believe that Voldemort had not been successful in attaining immortality via other means?
  • Was Dumbledore simply dealing with what he knew and hoping that it would all work out?
  • Something else?
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    Good question. The most likely answer is that Rowling forgot about that part.She might also think that the statement itself hints to multiple Horcruxes, but that doesn't make sense. The statement "One or more of my Horcruxes" (replacing "experiments" with "Horcruxes") would imply that it isn't sure whether any single Horcrux is able to keep him alive, but one or more of them did.
    – user102803
    Jul 7, 2019 at 6:46
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    I'm assuming that Dumbledore simply knows all of the ways to become immortal and is aware of what would work and what wouldn't.
    – Valorum
    Jul 7, 2019 at 7:15
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    Harry told Dumbledore that Voldemort claimed to have gone further than anybody on the path to immortality, but maybe Harry did not tell Dumbledore the rest of what he had heard. Can anybody check if Harry also informed Dumbledore that Voldemort said, "it appeared that one or more of my experiments had worked"? That would be a curious omission by Harry since one obvious interpretation is that Voldemort had tried other experiments besides making a Horcrux.
    – RichS
    Jul 7, 2019 at 7:16
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    Can somebody share why they voted to close this question? It is an insightful question and should be kept open.
    – RichS
    Jul 7, 2019 at 7:17
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    @Pam I think that's the whole point of the question. We don't actually know what Voldemort did or didn't do. All we know is that he claimed to have performed multiple experiments, which at the very least could mean that he used something other than Horcruxes; thus, why was Dumbledore confident that destroying Horcruxes alone would remove all obstacles, unless he had specific evidence that Voldemort had not done anything else?
    – Alex
    Jul 7, 2019 at 20:14

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Voldemort's language would have suggested to Dumbledore that those other experiments were unsuccessful.

I've argued elsewhere that Voldemort did indeed try to achieve immortality in other ways, on the basis of the quotes in the question. I believe that successive experiments in various forms of Dark Magic were part of the reason why Voldemort's face and overall appearance became so disfigured. The Horcruxes played no small part in this transformation; losing your soul piece by piece is certainly going to have an impact on your appearance. But I agree that the words "one or more of my experiments" suggests multiple attempts to achieve immortality. The Horcruxes were one of many things that Voldemort tried. They just so happened to be the only method which was successful.

Of course, we don't know what those experiments were. They're never referred to again. However, I think that we can establish why Dumbledore was reasonable to suppose that the Horcruxes were Voldemort's only credible defence against mortality.

Firstly, Dumbledore is pretty open about the fact that his assessments of Voldemort are guesswork. He recognises that he could be wrong about how to defeat him, and how huge the consequences of making a wrong judgement could be.

“I told you everything I know. From this point forth, we shall be leaving the firm foundation of fact and journeying together through the murky marshes of memory into thickets of wildest guesswork. From here on in, Harry, I may be as woefully wrong as Humphrey Belcher, who believed the time was ripe for a cheese cauldron.”
“But you think you’re right?” said Harry.
“Naturally I do, but as I have already proven to you, I make mistakes like the next man. In fact, being - forgive me - rather cleverer than most men, my mistakes tend to be correspondingly huger.”
(Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 10, The House of Gaunt).

When talking about Horcruxes specifically he is similarly hesitant.

“So, the other Horcruxes?” said Harry. “Do you think you know what they are, sir?”
“I can only guess,” said Dumbledore.
(Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23, Horcruxes).

All of Dumbledore's reasoning about the Horcruxes were educated guesses, formed from deductions about Voldemort's behaviour and his past.

However, it was reasonable for Dumbledore to presume that the Horcruxes were Voldemort's sole form of defence. Voldemort's language when describing his immortality is remarkably vague.

"You know my goal - to conquer death. And now, I was tested, and it appeared that one or more of my experiments had worked..."
(Goblet of Fire, Chapter 33, The Death Eaters).

I think the key word there is "experiments". Voldemort has been experimenting with various forms of immortality, and isn't even clear himself (at least openly to his followers) which one of those worked. Voldemort's language is much more consistent with a series of desperate attempts to achieve immortality, one of which, luckily enough, happened to come off than a series of successful back-up plans, all of which made him immortal. The "or more" in his statement is probably a distraction. Of course, with an experiment you can't really rule out that something you tried worked without you knowing. Voldemort could've pulled off a mystery spell that gave him immortality without realising it was successful. But this isn't at all likely - and Dumbledore knew this. Methods of attaining immortality aren't exactly two a penny. Voldemort would've tried everything he could've, since his life goal (stated in the quote) is to become immortal and to cheat death. But it's only logical to assume that these desperate attempts didn't come to anything. Obviously, as far as both Voldemort and Dumbledore were concerned, the only way to really test whether an immortality device works is to try to die, which is something Voldemort would never willingly do. The success rate of these experiments was unknown until they were tested. This only happened once, and they worked. This was all Voldemort and Dumbledore knew for certain.

Nevertheless, logic suggested that Horcruxes were by far the most likely option. Voldemort was ripped from his body when the Avada Kedavra spell hit him. We're told that this spell is unblockable but clearly any magic which Voldemort tried which made him invulnerable from Killing Curses didn't work. He was hit by a Killing Curse, and it killed him, just as it would've done for anyone else. Dumbledore knows this, and he also knows that it's likely that the only surviving part of Voldemort from the Godric's Hollow attack is his soul. Dumbledore would've deduced that Voldemort was an incorporeal spirit both from the rumours he heard from Albania and from the evidence of Voldemort's activities in Philosopher's Stone. Voldemort's form is consistent with a soul, which suggests that the magic Voldemort used was magic that protected his soul, which suggests Horcruxes. Any other magic which was about protecting the body can be ruled out.

Remember that the Slughorn memory gives Dumbledore proof that Voldemort was pursuing Horcruxes as an immortality device from a very young age. Voldemort was transfixed with the idea using Horcruxes to create a seven-part soul ever since he was a schoolboy. The diary also clearly suggested to Dumbledore that Voldemort followed through on his plans and had actually created at least one Horcrux. All of this was irrefutable evidence. In contrast, these other mystery experiments are only mentioned in passing on one occasion. Dumbledore didn't have any evidence to go on regarding other methods of immortality. He didn't have much of a reason to devote his limited time to investigating other things that Voldemort tried which were probably unsuccessful, based on zero evidence. Instead, he focused on the Horcruxes, which he definitely knew that Voldemort had adopted.

Besides, Dumbledore believed that, even if he was successful in gaining immortality by another route, Voldemort would be unwilling to utilise these methods when they had drawbacks.

"I believe that he would have found the thought of being dependent, even on the Elixir, intolerable. Of course he was prepared to drink it if it would take him out of the horrible part-life to which he was condemned after attacking you, but only to regain a body. Thereafter, I am convinced, he intended to continue to rely on his Horcruxes. He would need nothing more, if only he could regain a human form. He was already immortal, you see...or as close to immortal as any man can be."
(Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 23, Horcruxes).

Dumbledore clearly viewed the Horcruxes as Voldemort's primary method of attaining immortality. Any other devices, such as the Philosopher's Stone, were only useful to him as a way of getting a new body. They weren't substitutes for the Horcruxes, which were always Voldemort's main and indeed only defence against death.

Even if Voldemort had other secrets about immortality which Dumbledore didn't know about, Voldemort's Horcruxes still had to be destroyed anyway. This was a big enough task without bringing in other external problems.

So I think that

Was Dumbledore simply dealing with what he knew and hoping that it would all work out?

is the best-supported explanation from the books. Nevertheless, I don't think that Dumbledore was unreasonable in ignoring the line about experiments. There wasn't really much to go on other than a remark made in passing. Those experiments clearly didn't protect Voldemort from Avada Kedavra so it was reasonable to focus on destroying the Horcruxes rather than chasing unpromising leads.

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    Interesting how you keep referring to yourself in the 3rd person. ;) Good analysis, BTW.
    – FreeMan
    Jul 10, 2019 at 20:00

Voldemort would be referring to his horcruxes here

To see why, let's go through all the ways that it's possible to avoid death.

  1. Horcruxes, as we know Voldy took this route
  2. Unicorn Blood, this keeps the person alive but they live a cursed life for the rest of their life (assuming someone kept on drinking it)
  3. Philosopher's Stone, this keeps the person alive so long as they keep drinking from it as well
  4. (?) Magical ritual to obtain blood from someone else, Harry was tethered to life so long as Voldemort lived. This has to also do with Lily's love in Harry's blood so not sure this works for everyone

2, 3, and 4 get crossed off right away since we know that Voldemort is talking about the night he went to the Potter's and all of those hadn't happened yet (well the stone did but he later tries to steal it so he hadn't thought of it either).

And since we know

What I was, even I do not know... I, who have gone further than anybody along the path that leads to immortality.

Voldemort was the first one to make seven horcruxes. He had never died before. So he had never known what it was like and if they actually worked. Maybe one of them had faltered? Malfunctioned? Been destroyed? Who knows. And that's what Voldemort is referring to in this line:

And now, I was tested, and it appeared that one or more of my experiments had worked...

He knew that at least one of his horcruxes had worked. But he didn't know if they had all played a part, or just one. In the end, he and the trio do realize that they all worked. But at the moment he was killed he didn't know what was going on. He just knew he wasn't permanently dead. Therefore, one (or more) of his horcruxes had worked and kept him alive.

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    Multiple Horcruxes doesn’t seem like multiple experiments. Either hiding a piece of soul in an object keeps you alive, or it doesn’t. “One or more of my experiments” implies that Voldemort had tried multiple ways to gain immortality and given that he hadn’t died at least one of them must have been successful.
    – Alex
    Jul 7, 2019 at 17:15
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    @Alex That could be a possible interpretation but I stick with mine. However, I'd like to point out that Voldy also made an animal a horcrux. Which I think people had just stuck to regular objects as horcruxes, not a sentient being. So, from your interpretation, Nagini being a horcrux could be an additional experiment alongside his original horcruxes. Also, I agree with the "it's a yes or no possibility" but still remember Voldemort didn't know 100% it would work. He was trying it out since it'd barely been done before and was hoping it would work.
    – B. Lalonde
    Jul 7, 2019 at 18:30
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    It doesn't matter what Voldemort meant, but what Dumbledore thought.
    – OrangeDog
    Jul 8, 2019 at 10:58

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