Is the time-lock on Gallifrey gone, so Clara was able to land, or is there more going on? Did the Doctor ever realize Clara had managed to land on Gallifrey?

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    She slipped past the time-lock through a plot-hole Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 10:14
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    Possible duplicate of How did Clara end up on Gallifrey?
    – tilley31
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 15:25
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    @tilley31 I don't believe this can be a duplicate of the question about how an echo of Clara could have been on Gallifrey to tell the first Doctor which TARDIS to steal. None of the answers to that question seem to address how Clara could have steered the TARDIS to Gallifrey in Listen.
    – Blackwood
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 17:59

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Firstly, I think you're confusing the "time lock" on the result of the Time War, "The Moment", which was the weapon The Doctor used, and his later plan to save Gallifrey by putting it in stasis. They are all very different things.

The device known as "The Moment" (also known as "The Eye of Discord") which, in his incarnation as The War Doctor, he used to end the war, was a weapon "capable of destroying Gallifrey, the Daleks, and whole galaxies within a single moment". Its name comes from how quickly it can destroy, and has nothing to do with freezing things in a moment of time. The Time Lords harnessed the power of black holes with "The Eye of Harmony", so you can imagine that this weapon would have at least the magnified destructive power of a black hole.

So The Doctor did actually destroy Gallifrey and The Daleks, putting an end to the Time War. The events of the Time war are "time locked", meaning that time-travel to them was not possible. Nobody should have been able to travel into the war, and nobody should have been able to break out of the time lock. However, as we know, both Daleks and Timelords did find ways to break out of it - Dalek Caan got out, but at the cost of his sanity; Rassilon and the Timelords used the beat inside The Master's head as a signal to fix on outside of the timelock and attempted to break out from it that way.

It was the AI of The Moment (taking the form of Rose) that broke the Timelock allowing the three Doctors to return to the Time War:

TEN: These events should be time-locked. We shouldn't even be here.
ELEVEN: So something let us through.
MOMENT: You clever boys.

Once there, the new plan to save Gallifrey was based on the technology of statis cubes - to freeze Gallifrey in a moment of time.

The Timelords explained what the result of this plan would be:

"We'd be lost in another universe, frozen in a single moment".

So, the war would remain time-locked, but Gallifrey would survive elsewhere in the universe. The planet was "lost", and The Doctor said he was going to look for it - but it found him first. The crack from Amy's wall, which we learned was a crack in space and time, apparently linked Gallifrey to The Doctor as Clara was able to speak to them through it. From the point at which Gallifrey was "saved", it was not impossible for The Doctor or The TARDIS to go to Gallifrey - just very, very difficult.

Onto the question of how Clara managed to "accidentally" land the TARDIS on Gallifrey - The Doctor had connected her with the TARDIS telepathic interface and it "extrapolated" her entire timeline. He was trying to locate the moment in time that she first had the dream about something under the bed, but what he did not reckon on properly was that, as "the impossible girl", her timeline is connected with all his own timeline, and evidently, this allowed the TARDIS to travel to the moment that The Doctor had the dream as a child on Gallifrey - which turned out to be, paradoxically, Clara under his bed.

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    The event was not time-locked, the entire war (which spanned all of time) was locked.
    – OrangeDog
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 12:40
  • @OrangeDog there are things about that idea that don't make sense. If the time lock covered the entire war then The Doctor, who fought in it, should have been locked in it and been unable to travel through time after it. If his action destroying the Timelords and Daleks ended the war and ended the timelock then he should have been able to travel back to the event afterwards.
    – Astralbee
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 14:41
  • indeed, but it has been repeatedly established that nobody can go "back" to any part of the war. Except for all the times it happens. The Doctor isn't in the lock, because they're the one who locked it.
    – OrangeDog
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 14:43
  • @OrangeDog You are right, I've updated my answer to account for that.
    – Astralbee
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 14:44
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    Some more notes :) Technically the Cult of Skaro didn't break out - they were outside of the universe at the "time" it was locked. The Moment should be far more powerful than a simple black hole - the Time Lords could chuck those around all day if they wanted.
    – OrangeDog
    Commented Jul 11, 2019 at 14:51

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