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In the Doctor Who episode "Dark Water" (S8E11), hundreds of human skeletons are seen sitting in the eponymous "dark water", which Dr Chang describes as follows:

It's so cool. Look at this. We call it dark water. Only organic matter can be seen through it.

He demonstrates by putting his arm into a jar of the stuff; he's wearing a jacket and wristwatch, but through the water only his bare arm can be seen.

skeletons in tanks

Given the way this stuff works, how is it possible to see the chairs that the skeletons are sitting on?

Obviously from the out-of-universe perspective, the reason is so that at first glance they seem like just normal skeletons and only later we realise there's something else around them. If they were apparently suspended in a sitting position mid-water, we'd realise much sooner that something was up. But what's the in-universe explanation, given the way this water works?

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    Presumably his wristwatch and jacket were made of synthetic materials and the chairs are made of cotton or wool. – Valorum Nov 10 at 18:07
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    @Valorum or solid wood... guess it depends on the definition of "organic" one uses... – Jon Clements Nov 10 at 18:11
  • shrug You can see the far side of the tank through it too. Glancing at the pic I'd presume it's the same material as the chairs. – Radhil Nov 10 at 19:42
  • Considering the later plot in the next episode, it's likely just nano-goo and programmed to act like it does, with a plausible term for the muggles to use. – Radhil Nov 10 at 19:49
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    Wood is organic, and a common material for chairs. – Stop Harming Monica Nov 11 at 11:35
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Perhaps the chairs are made of wood or some other organic material? The inference is that you cannot see the alloys that make up the cybernetic part of the cybermen inside.

That said, there is a much greater inconsistency. All you can see inside the cybermen is the human skeleton, implying that any flesh has rotted away. What is the point of that? Cybermen are cybernetically augmented humanoids - they are meant to be an enhanced human, not just a robot with a brittle, human skeleton inside. What would be the point of that?

Previous scenes of cyber-conversion have shown that the human flesh remains alive inside. In the episode 'The Next Doctor' a 'Cyber Leader' has a partly transparent head through which you can see his human brain. Bill Potts cried a real tear inside her cyberman suit. There was the 'Cyberwoman' in Torchwood whose face you could still see, and another episode from classic Who that I can't remember the name of where there was a partially converted Cyberman looking quite similar. The flesh is evidently meant to be kept alive inside the Cyberman suit, so quite why you can only see the skeletons in this episode when, as you point out, you could see Dr Chang's flesh, is a bit of a mystery.

I think you'll have to write this one off as an ill-thought-out plot-device designed solely to keep the identity of the Cybermen a secret until the big reveal, and which defies explanation.

[shakes fist] Moffat!!

  • So, what you're saying is that the answer to this question is the same as the answer to every other Doctor Who question... – FreeMan Nov 13 at 19:15
  • @FreeMan NOoo, I mainly just answer the Who questions, and if you look at my other answers I take it seriously. For a show that has run for nearly 60 years and had 100 different writers, it manages continuity pretty well, but there are some occasional goofs, like this one. – Astralbee Nov 13 at 20:15
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    There was a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek in my comment though it wasn't really obvious :/. In general, you're correct - they do a great job, but the "[shakes fist] Moffat!!" was what I was really after. :) – FreeMan Nov 13 at 20:17

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