In episode 1e08, the Mandalorian meets the armorer again and has this exchange with her:

Armorer: It looks helpless.

The Mandalorian: It's injured, but it is not helpless. Its species can move objects with its mind.

Armorer: I know of such things. The songs of eons past tell of battles between Mandalore The Great, and an order of sorcerers called Jedi that fought with such powers.

How does this exchange make sense?

The series takes place a few years after the fall of the Empire. So Luke Skywalker should be a well known figure and probably in the process of training new Jedi.

Even if not, the Mandalorians fought in the Clone Wars, where Jedi were still a somewhat common sight. During the the time of the Empire, Darth Vader and Emperor Palapatine were prominent figures with similar powers.

A Mandalorian joined the Jedi order 1000 years ago, why is such an event unknown to the armorer?

Surely, a learned figure in their community like the armorer knows more about Jedi than tales from a war, which happened thousands of years ago.

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    This is roughly along the same lines as Why would the Force become so mysterious and unrecognized after only 20 years?
    – Mr Lister
    Feb 6, 2020 at 11:16
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    “So Luke Skywalker should be a well known figure and probably in the process of training new Jedi” — should he? Is there any indication that Luke Skywalker became a well-known figure after the events of Return of the Jedi? Feb 6, 2020 at 14:19
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    It's not clear if anyone outside of Han and Leia knows about Luke being a Jedi (or even having Force powers). Most folks in the Rebellion would likely just know him as the hero of Yavin 4 and a X-Wing squadron leader.
    – pboss3010
    Feb 6, 2020 at 15:03
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    In "The Force Awakens", Rey knows of the legend of Luke and the Force, and she's just a scavenger on a back world planet (at the time). So clearly word got around. Feb 6, 2020 at 17:18
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    @NKCampbell, yes, it's canon. The story was recounted in an episode of "Rebels" that gives the history of the Darksaber. Nov 4, 2020 at 14:59

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The plausibility of this scenario is that The Mandalorian was just a child when he got adopted and the Jedi were massacred shortly after. And of course the Empire did whatever it could to remove all traces of the Jedi.

And although Luke is a famous figure in the Rebellion this is a vast galaxy and it would take decades for him to become a household name compared to high ranking generals or political leaders like Ackbar or Organa.

Why the Mandaolorians specifically don't know what a Jedi is comes from the point that they rebelled Imperial rule and got massacred. This would leave major gaps in their history.

But you are completely right in the fact that doesn't make any sense at all. Seeing it's suggested (due to her position in the order) she is probably at least a decade older then the main character and therefor should have even witnessed the Clone Wars as a teenager/young adult. And the same goes for some of the other members. So unless there was a form of mass amnesia...

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    The rant about Disney is not needed and as shown in the linked question this was the case before Disney acquired SW anyway.
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Feb 6, 2020 at 11:20
  • @TheLethalCarrot not a rant, but an observation (Even said that the new additions they made in the Mandalorian were an improvement). There have always been minor retcons but they are a lot more frequent now most notably the removal of a lot of a large chunk of the EU. That makes it a lot more difficult to determine the validity of certain claims.
    – A.bakker
    Feb 6, 2020 at 11:24
  • More to this, the mandalorians know the legends about the war against the Jedi but probably don't know how they look like and their respective image could've been distorted through the ages. So even if the Armorer saw Jedi Knights fighting in the clone wars, she probably didn't know they were called Jedi/they were the Jedi from the legends, as they are not like anime characters to announce themselves in combat :)
    – RigaCrypto
    Feb 6, 2020 at 13:03
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    Even at the height of the Jedi Order they only had 10 thousand or so members in a Galactic Republic that controlled nearly 50 million inhabited systems (with at least as many inhabited systems outside the Republic). It's not really that hard to believe that someone living at that time might never have heard of Jedi, especially if they're a commoner from a minor world. Feb 21, 2020 at 15:36

Mando was rescued by Deathwatch They clearly knew Jedi and sith at the time of Mandos birth they were fighting mauls rule of Mandalore and Ashoka came to help free them. Then during the siege of Mandalore Kanan and Ezra specifically helped house Wren and house Kryze defeat Clan Saxon who sides with the empire. the jedi are so deeply entwined with the Mandalorians it is impossible for me to believe they have forgotten the Jedi. The fact that the armorer refers to ancient history to find a legend of jedi confounds me. it is less then 30 years since the jedi were a huge influence on both the republic and Mandalore.

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    Is there any evidence that the clan that Mando is seen with in Season 1 is Deathwatch?
    – NKCampbell
    Nov 3, 2020 at 18:12

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