So in the War of Wrath many dragons were killed, and after the defeat of Morgoth many of the dragons seem to have fled. Late in the Third Age some of the dragons (most notable being Smaug) started doing evil in Middle-earth.

Were they still beholden to Sauron; had command of them passed down — as it were — from Morgoth to Sauron? And did they make war on Dwarves and Men independently, or was it an order of Sauron?

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    Can't quite see Sauron ordering a perfect machine of destruction to annoy a settlement on a lake and pass out in a cave.
    – Misha R
    Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 5:22
  • @MishaR no, that’s true. But he might have ordered him generally to wreak havoc, or be a nuisance. Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 6:10
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    @MishaR A cave that happens to house a wealthy Dwarven kingdom with a history of fighting against the orcs of the north.
    – Annatar
    Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 12:05
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    @MishaR Orders don't prevent other actions from taking place. If one was ordered to guard a dwarven city for example, attacking a nearby town wouldn't contradict that order, and could also be an interpretation of it.
    – Centimane
    Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 14:00
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    @Fivesideddice There are some inaccurate statements in your question. In either the Akallabeth or Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age it is said that early in the Second Age Sauron saw that the Valar had forsaken Middle-earth and let leftover creatures of Morgoth like orcs, trolls, and dragons attack the free peoples, millennia before the Third Age. And during the Third Age there were several waves of dragon attacks, destroying 4 to 6 ancient dwarf kingdoms before Moria fell, possibly due to successive generations of dragons maturing, before Smaug attacked Erebor, . Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 16:23

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No explicit command had passed down

Although it is never explicitly said, it is very unlikely that Sauron "assumed" control of the Dragons after Melkor's exile, however whether he would've been able to rouse them to do his bidding is debatable. Firstly, there were not many dragons left in the time of the War of the Ring. The greatest of which, Smaug, had been disposed of decades earlier. Secondly, of Smaug it is said that Gandalf had thought that Sauron may use "the Dragon" to terrible effect.

Among many cares he was troubled in mind by the perilous state of the North; because he knew then already that Sauron was plotting war, and intended, as soon as he felt strong enough, to attack Rivendell. But to resist any attempt from the East to regain the lands of Angmar and the northern passes in the mountains there were now only the Dwarves of the Iron Hills. And beyond them lay the desolation of the Dragon. The Dragon Sauron might use with terrible effect. How then could the end of Smaug be achieved?
Appendix A, Durin's Folk

The implication being that Sauron could've reached out to Smaug but Smaug was not under his control.

Melkor himself had trouble controlling the dragons and Glaurung, the "Father of Dragons" was said to have revealed himself too early.

Like all dragons, Glaurung was a sentient being, who spoke and took decisions of his own, such as revealing himself too early.
Quenta Silmarillion

Dragons clearly show, especially in the Third Age, an advanced level of wit and intelligence and a level of sarcasm unparalleled in other creatures. They are shown to posses sentience and as described of Glaurung, made their own decisions.
What use dragons may have been to Sauron is unknown. With the death of the last "Great" dragon, there was not much "fire" left in the others to use to great effect.

It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the rings of power but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough
Fellowship of the Ring, The Shadow of the Past

Tolkien himself states, in letter 144, that the above passage implies that Dragons remained although not in the stature they had seen before

But that implies, I think, that there are still dragons, if not of full primeval stature...
Letter 144

If Sauron had control over what was left of the Dragons, would he not have used them in the War of the Ring in his fight against the Men of Lake-town or against Lorien? While the logistical feat of bringing them to the Pelennor may not have been worth it, using them to attack the more Northern Realms would've been helpful, yet no mention is ever made of that. Nor even a thought in the early development of the writings.

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    Good answer. Reading that line again, I always thought Sauron wouldn't command Smaug, but that he would use either trickery, bribery or flattery to coax Smaug into volunteering for some nefarious purpose.
    – Stian
    Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 13:59
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    @Stian, exactly. I feel Tolkien is detailed enough that he wouldn't lazily use the word "use" to mean something more controlling, as opposed to manipulating.
    – Edlothiad
    Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 16:53

I don't know if there's any concrete discussion. But there's certainly a hint in Gandalf's comment in Appendix A of LOTR, describing how he set up the Hobbit quest:

The Dragon Sauron might use to terrible effect.

This seems to imply that he had at least some influence over Smaug.

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    Perhaps more accurately Smaug was a wildcard in this regard. The dragons were involved with Morgoth, and Sauron has a history of successfully deceiving others for his benefit. Sauron could (and likely would) deal with Smaug either in good or bad faith to the detriment of the free folk.
    – Centimane
    Commented Apr 15, 2020 at 14:06

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