In Girl Genius, there were nine super-intelligent robot "Muses" that were made by the spark van Rijn for the Storm King.

They are robots, but they can hold a human consciousness, as they did for both Lucretia and for Tarvek's sister (I forgot her name).

Given their challenging relationship with the first Storm King, especially their disinclination to his marriage to the Heterodyne, and their unilateral inability to advise him against his own destruction, they could be said to exhibit the irrational behavior of humans attached to him. It is arguable that divination using the cards, as done by Moxana, is not a clank thing but a consciousness thing.

Question: Are they actual humans put into the constructs by Van Rijn? Are they full clanks, or are they a consciousness + clank cyborg?

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    Fact check: the muses never held those human minds. "Anevka", the mimic that learned from what was left of Tarvek's sister, was created by Tarvek based on the muse he studied. Lucrezia is using that same body, just with a new more advanced head. Otilia also housed the Castle AI, and Von Pinn housed Otilia... but whether the original muses were captured human minds is not something we know at this point.
    – Radhil
    Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 19:33
  • I haven't read the webcomic much since "beast of the rails" so I wasn't aware of it. That sounds like the foundation of a good answer. Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 19:34
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    You may have missed a bit then.... but the above was from earlier, and while there has been more, it just adds more questions... I'll try to work up a non-spoilery answer.
    – Radhil
    Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 19:41
  • My mind was going to the "what is the back story of the amazing scholar/actor/strategist girls who wanted the affection of the storm king bad enough to be put in immortal but highly limited forms of the muses and submit themselves to the madness of van Rijn". I was thinking it was a back-handed way to get to princess-hood and immortality. It smelled tragic and romantic at the same time. Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 20:13
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    Hint: TOTALLY not the story there. When has Girl Genius ever been that straightforward?
    – Radhil
    Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 20:15

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There's too much we don't know about the Muses to answer fully.

Let's discuss your thoughts first.

"Anevka", the robot clank that Tarvek's injured sister operated, was a learning machine that adapted to how it was used, and didn't even realize the original Anevka had died at some point during her operation. Tarvek built it himself, based on what he learned from studying the Muse Tinka. Lucrezia also used this same clank, albeit by getting downloaded into an improved head Tarvek had built.

This suggests Muses either can host or can mimic human minds... but doesn't really prove it, given the tech is Tarvek's, "Anevka"'s lack of self-awareness, and Lucrezia's lack of... well, anything resembling humanity. Does make it pretty likely.

Second, we absolutely know that minds - synthetic or organic - can be transferred.

Lucrezia's studies under Castle Heterodyne made concrete that minds could be transferred. Lucrezia was able to transfer the original muse Otilia's clank mind into the organic (mostly) construct Von Pinn, and then transferred the Heterodyne Castle AI mind into Otilia's clank body. Note however, her work isn't without effects, intentional or otherwise. Otilia-in-Von-Pinn's mind was a few fries short of a happy meal by the time of the story, probably not helped by being beholden to Lucrezia's control voice which the Von Pinn body had built in. There's also a really giant question mark about if the Castle AI got forced into Otilia's body, whether or not that was relevant to what the hell happened that wrecked Castle Heterodyne to begin with - which definitely broke whatever mind was left in the Castle.

In addition, we have a hearsay confirmation at a point you haven't read yet -

During the Paris arc, a traitorous Beausoleil (himself a spark driving many clank bodies remotely) states to his (former) master Voltaire, the Master of Paris, that he was only after what Voltaire had learned from Van Rijn, who could move life from flesh to machines and back. This becomes central to the end of that arc - Voltaire has to "become" his city once again, wielding it much like the AI wielded Castle Heterodyne. Colette, Beausoleil, and possibly someone else are also part of the city at points, with Colette becoming Voltaire's successor.

Finally, the Muses themselves.

  • Moxana. There seems to be very little point to Moxana's lack of speech. Sure, it forces her metaphoric communication to be more effective, fitting her role. But if Van Rijn's clanks truly were original creations meant to be a pinnacle of form... where exactly did the idea of being mute come from? None of the others were, and the ones we've seen weren't meant to be great orators.
  • They did serve the Storm King, but were built to inspire him to greatness, not purely to obey him. ... pretty sure it didn't work. All spoiler at this point.

Also in the Paris arc... a not-so-pretty zombified Andronicus, the Storm King himself, was held at bay in some sort of time stasis field set, kept, and defended by the Muse Prende. Once he's let lose, he's near invincible, 99% mad, and pretty much the worst thing to happen to Paris. Prende does follow him, but at no point does she appear to be under his command.

There are two other Muses, of a sort, other than the original 9. One is the Muse of Vengeance, which appears to have been built by Van Rijn but never activated, for purposes unknown.

The second is the Muse of Time, not actually built by Van Rijn but an apparition he encountered many times in various forms. It's all but confirmed via a memory of Queen Albia of England that the Muse of Time is Lucrezia in various bodies screwing with time travel. Which means the Other War has been going on for a lot longer than anyone realizes. Also... Agatha manages to release the Muse of Time from another trap of Van Rijn's. Notes from Van Rijn indicate he was chasing the Muse of Time for his entire life, but notes from Van Rijn also require some serious sparking to decode every cipher, invisible ink, secret pages, and just plain hideous sneakiness he's built into them. It's not really known whether the Muse of Time inspired the Muses, whether Van Rijn's work is based on Lucrezia's or vice versa, if he gleaned any foreknowledge of the future, or just what the plain hell is going on.

  • I always thought Moxana's muteness and general withdrawal was part of her psychosomatic reaction (or whatever clanks get instead) to losing her "sister". "Even if her grief is artificial, it is destroying her."
    – Cadence
    Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 23:17
  • @Cadence - She has no mouth, and even after being reunited with Tinka, and serving Tarvek, does not speak.
    – Radhil
    Commented Aug 18, 2020 at 23:44

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