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When the Russians discovered their Stargate had the writer's forgotten about the BETA GATE from season 2 episode 14 that was found, recovered, stored, sealed and locked away after it was recovered from the National Intelligence Dept.?

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    iirc the "Russian gate" is the original one from the SGC and got blown up by Anubis. The other gate which iirc is the Antarctic one is the current gate in use Oct 17 '20 at 6:15
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No, at any point in history there are only ever one or two stargates on Earth.

From pre-history there is one gate in Antartica, emplaced by the Ancients, which we'll call Gate 1. At some point they ascended and the gate fell out of use. The Goa'uld arrived millions of years later and emplaced their own gate which we'll call Gate 2.

The SGC discovered Gate 2 in the 1940s and placed it in Cheyenne Mountain. This is the stargate that is used by the SCG in SG1: Children of the Gods. They discovered Gate 1 at the end of Season 1 (SG1: Solitudes) and placed it into storage at Area 51.

The Stargate Programme used Gate 2 until it was beamed out of the SGC in Season 3, Episode 22 (SG1: Nemesis) and briefly used before it crashed into the ocean. The Russians recovered it and began their own covert programme. The SGC unpacked Gate 1 and used that until it was destroyed in Season 6 (SG1: Redemption) at which point they started using Gate 2 again, having first leased and then bought it from the Russians, whose abortive Stargate programme had sinc been shelved.


To answer your specific question, the Russians didn't discover a Stargate, they recovered the SGC's original Stargate after it fell into the ocean in SG1: Nemesis, held onto it for a few seasons (and incompetently used it), then demanded various considerations to return it to its righful owners.

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    I wouldn't say Gate 2 was "stolen" in Nemesis. SG1 used it to evacuate from Thor's ship and it crashed together with the ship. (The NIS stole Gate 1 from storage at some point, but that's unrelated) Jan 30 at 14:34
  • @CodesInChaos - After the crash it was "covertly recovered" by the Russians. Theft by finding is still theft, although you could certainly argue that it was neither the legitimate possession of the Americans or that it fell under the heading of salvage.
    – Valorum
    Jan 30 at 14:42
  • @CodesInChaos - But you're not wrong. It wasn't stolen from the SGC, it was stolen from the salvage site.
    – Valorum
    Jan 30 at 14:54
  • By international salvage law the gate was owned by the Russians. It met the conditions, the salvaged item was in "real peril" being stuck at the bottom of the ocean. Recovering it was fully voluntary at their own risk and there was no preexisting contract to perform the salvage. The Russians own it fair and square. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_salvage?wprov=sfla1 the us might demand that they give it back and accept a reward equal to it's value, but then a fairly public international court needs to assign a fair value to it which neither wanted. Jan 30 at 23:36
  • @JohnMeacham - You are incorrect. Salvage law certainly would not apply to a military vessel under the control of the US government at the time of its sinking - "Maritime experts told the Tribune they could find no regulation in international law governing the salvage procedure of a warship in international waters during peacetime" - Note that "title to property is not lost by sinking" if the owner has the capacity to recover the items lost; core.ac.uk/download/pdf/216912172.pdf
    – Valorum
    Jan 30 at 23:45

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