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In the MCU, we rarely see anyone call "Black Widow". There are a few cases, such as in Age of Ultron during the "lifting the hammer" scene:

James Rhodes: Come on, Cap. [Steve starts pulling on the hammer and manages to budge it a little; Thor looks a little alarmed. Steve still fails to lift it; Thor laughs with relief]

Thor: Nothing.

Tony Stark: And?

Bruce Banner: Widow?

Natasha Romanoff: Oh, no no. That's not a question I need answered.

So why do people call her that? Is that her nickname? Her codename? Just a superhero name for the audience to recognize her by?

If it's a nickname, well, what kind of nickname is that, and why don't they use it more often? If it's her codename, why would Banner use it to talk to her? And if it's for the audience, it wouldn't make sense for someone to call her by that name in the movie.

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    Not black, never married... you know, I'm starting to think this double agent is lying to us. Jan 22, 2021 at 11:24
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    (This is a comment rather than an answer because it is an out-of-universe explanation; which isn't really what the OP asked). Black Widow is a reference to the spider. Widow spiders are named as such because they typically kill their mate (thus becoming widows). Black Widow spiders are a poisonous variant. Hence, black widow is used to refer to a woman who kills one or more of her spouses/lovers. Using this as a codename suggests that the character is a femme fatale (i.e., that she is a spy who uses seduction).
    – Brian
    Jan 22, 2021 at 18:57
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    Do you want only the in-movie explanation? Otherwise, it's because the comic book character was named Black Widow. They change other stuff, but the movies keep the names. Jan 22, 2021 at 20:56
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    Oh, we're using our made up names...
    – mxyzplk
    Jan 22, 2021 at 21:06
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    @OwenReynolds I believe that it was a conflict with Sony, who held the X-Men characters and such. So they got her into the Avengers by not using her superhero name.
    – NomadMaker
    Jan 23, 2021 at 3:16

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Once she joins S.H.I.E.L.D. Black Widow is used more as a codename than anything else, similar to Hawkeye for Clint. We see this in this image of a screen with S.H.I.E.L.D. mission details.

However, the name was originally earned by her for becoming a top level spy and assassin. There's some hints to this in the films such as at the beginning of The Avengers when she is "captured" by Luchkov.

Luchkov: Solohob? Your reputation is quite a progression. The famous Black Widow. Nothing but a pretty face.

The Avengers

It is further spelled out in Marvel's The Avengers: Black Widow Strikes Issue 1 where a Russian spy named "Sophia" wants to kill Nat and take over the title.

Natasha: And... what do you get out of this if you "win"?

Sophia: Oh, I'm sorry, didn't I mention? If I win, I take over the mantle of Black Widow.

Marvel's The Avengers: Black Widow Strikes Issue 1

Lastly, Black Widow is still her codename and sort of a nickname, that is why the Avengers and her friends will sometimes call her by that name. However, they're more personal than that so most of the time they use Nat or Natasha.

Presumably we'll get even more information on this in the upcoming Black Widow film. However, we do get a bit of information in Black Widow Prelude Issue 1 where Thaddeus Ross gives us a rundown of what he knows about Natasha. As part of this he tells us the following:

Thaddeus Ross: Natasha Romanoff, A.K.A. Black Widow. Born in Russia, 1984.

[...]

Thaddeus Ross: At some point, she attracted the attention of one General Dreykov. He oversaw something called the Red Room, which was managed for him by someone known only as Madame B.

Hawley: The Red Room? I thought that was a story. Made up for some best-sellers or something.

Thaddeus Ross: On no, it was real, although it doesn't exist anymore. And Natasha was apparently their star pupil.

Black Widow Prelude Issue 1

This is interesting in that it tells us she was the star pupil etc. but also the line by Hawley "The Red Room? I thought that was a story. Made up for some best-sellers or something." This indicates there are stories out there about the Black Widow, presumably for The Avengers PR, but it means Bruce calling her Widow was also likely a joke about that too.

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    There's more detail in Agent Carter, which features another Black Widow agent.
    – OrangeDog
    Jan 22, 2021 at 11:54
  • @OrangeDog I've not watched Agent Carter, you're welcome to add an answer with anything from there!
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Jan 22, 2021 at 11:56
  • I imagine the upcoming (delayed by pandemic) Black Widow movie will give us more info on the subject, whenever they get around to releasing it. (Whether her story changed significantly from the comics version, only the people who made the movie can tell you until then.) Jan 22, 2021 at 21:06
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    Re: "This indicates there are stories out there about the Black Widow": Or at least, stories about the Red Room. (Does the one imply the other?) "Best-sellers" means novels, not PR material; so Hawley seems to be saying that there are novels that mention the Red Room, and he'd assumed that it was a literary invention.
    – ruakh
    Jan 24, 2021 at 9:51
  • @ruakh maybe, I don’t suppose we have enough to go on for either conclusion. But even a factual novel is promotional in some aspects.
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Jan 24, 2021 at 9:57
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In comics (and presumably MCU too) The Black Widow was a program designed in the USSR to train and condition spies (sleeper agents) in a facility named Red Room Academy. Natasha Romanov was part of it, and she succeeded in becoming the best spy ever trained in that program, thus rightfully earning the mantle of the "Black Widow".

Natasha’s grief over his death drove her further into the clutches and control of the Red Room Academy and she finally earned the title of Black Widow.

https://www.marvel.com/characters/black-widow-natasha-romanova/in-comics

Therefore, she was known as the Black Widow. In the scene you're citing, the Avengers are using "Widow" as a nickname, the same way as Rhodes said "Cap" as short for Captain America.

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  • The Agent Carter series confirms that the Black Widow program exists in the MCU; one of its spies is a major antagonist in the series. Jan 22, 2021 at 16:35
  • @TomRevell are you referring to the Red Room? Do they actually call it the Black Widow program?
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Jan 22, 2021 at 18:27
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I think its worth adding to the other answers to point out that "Black Widow" was definitely a name that Natasha was publicly known by, and as an Avenger she was indeed well-known (in-universe).

I can think of two references that support his, both in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

The first was a quote by Peter Parker while at the airport in Germany:

[Outside Flughafen Leipzig-Halle, We see Iron Man, War Machine, Captain America, Black Widow, and Black Panther confronting each other.]

Peter: (whispers) Okay, there’s Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow. Whoa. Who’s that new guy?

Its clear from the context of these Germany scenes that Parker is very much an outsider to the Avengers and isn't referring to her as Black Widow out of personal familiarity or insider knowledge. He literally had almost no idea why he was even there.

The second quote was a little later on in the film, made by Flash Thompson, one of Parker's classmates:

Flash: Ooh, I don’t know. I gotta check my calendar first. I got a hot date with Black Widow coming up.

Flash is just an ordinary person with no connection to the Avengers whatsoever. So Black Widow must just be a commonly known name.

(source of quotations)

I surmise that the relative lack of use of "Black Widow" in other MCU films is because most characters are personally familiar with her, and have no reason to use her nickname or agent codename. So the Spider-Man film gives a rarer insight into how other people might perceive her.

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