In Chapter 19 of The Silmarillion, there is the following passage:

Thus Beren came before King Finrod Felagund; and Felagund knew him, needing no ring to remind him of the kin of Bëor and of Barahir. Behind closed doors they sat, and Beren told of the death of Barahir, and of all that had befallen him in Doriath; and he wept, recalling Lúthien and their joy together. But Felagund heard his tale in wonder and disquiet; and he knew that the oath he had sworn was come upon him for his death, as long before he had foretold to Galadriel. He spoke then to Beren in heaviness of heart. 'It is plain that Thingol desires your death; but it seems that this doom goes beyond his purpose, and that the Oath of Fëanor is again at work. For the Silmarils are cursed with an oath of hatred, and he that even names them in desire moves a great power from slumber; and the sons of Fëanor would lay all the Elf-kingdoms in ruin rather than suffer any other than themselves to win or possess a Silmaril, for the Oath drives them. And now Celegorm and Curufin are dwelling in my halls; and though I, Finarfin's son, am King, they have won a strong power in the realm, and lead many of their own people. They have shown friendship to me in every need, but I fear that they will show neither love nor mercy to you, if your quest be told. Yet my own oath holds; and thus we are all ensnared.'

Now, I remember the conversation Finrod with Galadriel in question; it takes place at the end of Chapter 15:

Now King Finrod Felagund had no wife, and Galadriel asked him why this should be; but foresight came upon Felagund as she spoke, and he said: 'An oath I too shall swear, and must be free to fulfil it, and go into darkness. Nor shall anything of my realm endure that a son should inherit.'

I think I missed something in between, or misunderstood Finrod's words. The way I understood it, at the end of Chapter 15, he still did not make the oath, which he predicted he will take; during the passage I quoted in Chapter 19, he seems to have already made this oath, which now forces him to help Beren, despite the ruin he thinks it will bring. But I don't recall him taking an oath in between.

Did I miss this oath, misunderstand his words, or was it simply not mentioned?

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    Look at chapter 18 "Felagund escaped... but he swore an oath of abiding friendship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin, and in token of his vow he gave to Barahir his ring." Commented Aug 21, 2021 at 17:17
  • @ClaraDiazSanchez Right! I'm reading a little slowly and managed to forget that. Should I delete the question? Or perhaps you want to post this as an answer and I'll accept it? I'm not sure what the protocol is; it seems like a silly question now.
    – Wade
    Commented Aug 21, 2021 at 17:18
  • I think it's a fair question. I'm on my phone now, which is why I answered briefly. But I'll try to put a more complete answer (as can anybody else) Commented Aug 21, 2021 at 17:20

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The oath that Finrod is referring to was a vow he made to give "friendship and aid in every need" to Barahir and all his kin in gratitude for Barahir rescuing him in the Battle of Sudden Flame. This is detailed in chapter 18 of the Quenta Silmarillion. Note that in the quote you provide:

Felagund knew him [Beren], needing no ring to remind him of the kin of Bëor and of Barahir

and so Finrod was so honorable that Beren did not even need to show the ring. This is the oath that compels Finrod to assist Beren, despite the ruin he (correctly) sees that this will bring.

  • You are absolutely right. But isn't it a bit strange that he was so bound to help the son of Barahir, regardless of what he asked? Would he have been bound by this oath even if Beren wanted to declare war on Finrod's family and friends in order to gratify Thingol?
    – Wade
    Commented Aug 21, 2021 at 17:31
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    That is the risk you run with this kind of unconditional oaths, and they usually end in tears, But Finrod and Barahir (and so Beren too) were good people, so I guess they felt they could trust each other Commented Aug 21, 2021 at 17:34
  • Yes, I guess that was the idea behind this tragedy... Thank you very much!
    – Wade
    Commented Aug 21, 2021 at 17:35
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    It's a bit of a gentleman's/gentle-elf's (?) agreement: Finrod promises to do anything Barahir or his kin ask, on the understanding that the requests would only be reasonable or made under dire need. Oaths in the Silmarillion are a fascinating study, and get people into all kinds of trouble :-) Commented Aug 22, 2021 at 0:55

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