In Marvel's Loki (2021), the four-dimensional location of the Time Variance Authority is never officially established. However, the Bifrost is shown to be able to transport multiple characters across space (but not time) within the movies, even if it is summoned from somewhere outside of the nine realms - Heimdall is able to transport Bruce Banner to Earth from an undetermined position in space away from the now-destroyed Asgard in Avengers: Infinity War - from which one can assume the Bifrost can reach to and from locations outside of the Nine Realms. Does this mean that the Bifrost Bridge can reach to the TVA?
asked Sep 16, 2021 at 19:33
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1No, it's never been shown to be able to get to another universe, so it certainly couldn't reach a place outside of the universes.– VillanCommented Sep 16, 2021 at 19:45
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But is the TVA actually outside of the universes?– Peter NielsenCommented Sep 16, 2021 at 19:57
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1Considering it maintines the sacred timeline, I would say yes it is outside of all universes. Which means it's also not in any realm or dimension. It's outside all time and space.– VillanCommented Sep 16, 2021 at 20:29
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3The TVA is outside of reality, as evidenced by the lack of power of the Infinity Stones in the TVA. The Bifrost can't reach other universes, therefore, it wouldn't be able to reach the TVA.– IloneSPCommented Sep 16, 2021 at 21:55
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1As the last episode of Loki as shown, there is multiple TVAs (the one Loki ends up in and the one from which he came from). The TVA is outside the spacetime of the universe/timeline but still linked to it. And since Bifrost cannot move outside time, it cannot reach the TVA.– Philippe B.Commented Sep 16, 2021 at 22:36
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The Bifrost Bridge has never been shown to move through time or to other universes or dimensions. The TVA sits outside of time and universes.
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“The TVA sits outside of time” — sure! — “and universes” — to be determined. Commented Sep 17, 2021 at 15:27
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If it's in charge of going into each universe to prune the timeline, I think it's safe to say it sits just outside the universes unless it has it's own universe. Which sure hasn't been deteremined yet.– VillanCommented Sep 17, 2021 at 15:52
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what hasn't been determined yet is whether universe and timelines are the same thing. The Watcher can observe different universes. Do the TVA have the same power, or can they just observe (and destroy) timelines within their own universe? If timelines (like we see in Loki) and universes (like we see in What If...?) are the same thing, how come the apparent meddling with multiple timelines in What If... Doctor Strange Lost His Heart Instead of His Hands? didn't destroy the whole multiverse? Commented Sep 17, 2021 at 17:08
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In that episode it said it destroyed his universe. And I believe universes consist of time and space. The timeline is the flow of time. Meaning all events in all universes are basically the same when the sacred timeline exists, when they broke all the universes started to branch off.– VillanCommented Sep 17, 2021 at 17:23
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yup. And according to The Ancient One, that universe had multiple timelines in it. So, presumably, universes and timelines are not the same thing. Commented Sep 17, 2021 at 17:25