In "School Hard" (the episode that introduced Spike) a vampire boasts of having witnessed the crucifixion. Spike smacks him down (literally) and says "You were there? Oh, please! If every vampire who said he was at the Crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock." So lots of vampires make that boast, but are there any for whom the boast is true?

My impression is that most vampires relatively young, because they get killed by slayers or other vampires before learning enough to survive long-term. Angelus and Spike are famous for their age and skills, and are less than 200 years old, and the oldest vampire we see for any length of time (as I recall) is the Master, who is definitely post-crucifixion (his pre-vampire name is (according to this website) Heinrich Joseph Nest, a name that is no earlier than medieval).

Are there any canonical vampires in the Buffyverse who were turned before 33 AD?

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    The oldest I saw was supposed to be Dracula who was post crucifixion.
    – ShadoCat
    Commented Nov 18, 2022 at 0:29
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    The Master, Kakistos and Prince of Lies are all ancient, more than a thousand years old, but I don't think we've got a defined age on either of the latter two.
    – Valorum
    Commented Nov 18, 2022 at 0:38
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    Combining a Germanic name with a Hebrew name makes it a name that someone would have only after Christianity reached the Germans. In addition, having a last name in Germany is something that started after 1000 AD
    – Andrew
    Commented Nov 18, 2022 at 2:05
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    Was the crucifixion held at night? Commented Nov 18, 2022 at 11:24
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    @PaulD.Waite Love it, but Matthew, Mark, and Luke all mention that the sky darkened from noon on during the Crucifixion. Commented Nov 19, 2022 at 4:06

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We don't know of any vampires that actually witnessed the crucifixion. As Spike says, this is a common boast, but not one that anyone's really able to back up.

At the very least though, we do encounter a vampire that appears in Buffy that is old enough to have potentially done so, Kakistos, who makes an appearance in BtVS: Faith, Hope and Trick

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He's described in the episode by Giles thusly;

"'Kakistos' is Greek. It means the worst of the worst. It's also the name of a vampire so old that his hands and feet are cloven.

and in Go Ask Malice: A Slayer's Diary Faith's watcher Diana Dormer advises us that his origins aren't just in Greece, but ancient Greece, a period that someone as educated as Professor Dormer would be aware ranged from approximately the 8th to the 6th Century B.C., well before the life (and death) of Jesus.

She had asked me (innocently, I thought at the time) if I knew anything about maenads, and I told her what I knew, that they were identified in Greek mythology as the followers of Bacchus, also known as the Bakkhai.

According to Weiron’s Codex, the maenads were the slaves of a vampire in ancient Greece known as Kakistos, or the Worst of the Worst; the legend is that he would have his slaves refer to him as Father. These women were villagers who would be abducted and—through a combination of torture, sleep, and food deprivation, and perhaps magick—subsequently transformed into soldiers in a frenzied, bloodthirsty army, each willing to die for him. The interesting bit is that they were not sired but rather remained human—indeed, they even bore a brand, common to human slaves at the time.

  • Given that elderly vampires become misshapen, it's certainly possible that Prince of Lies is also old enough to predate 0 B.C., we just don't know for certain.
    – Valorum
    Commented Nov 18, 2022 at 18:15

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