In the later books, Hagrid is a teacher, but I don't recall him ever deducting house points.

Does he ever deduct house points?

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In the books as published, he only ever adds points, and only does this once

The only time in the books as published that Hagrid changes house points is in the fifth book, when he awards 10 points for Hermione answering a question correctly about Thestrals.

‘Righ’, now, who can tell me why some o’ yeh can see ’em an’ some can’t?’
Hermione raised her hand.
‘Go on then,’ said Hagrid, beaming at her.
‘The only people who can see Thestrals,’ she said, ‘are people who have seen death.’
‘Tha’s exactly right,’ said Hagrid solemnly, ‘ten points ter Gryffindor. Now, Thestrals –’
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Chapter 21 "The Eye of the Snake"

In some of the earlier drafts though, Hagrid can be seen deducting points as well.

On July 9th 1998 (a week after the second book released), J.K. Rowling did a photoshoot for the Guardian at Waterstones cafe in Edinburgh with photographer Murdo MacLeod.

In one of the photographs a draft of the Salamander lesson in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban can be seen.

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The warmth was
'Fork a coal - use the tongs. Seamus - excellent, show
(Hugh bonfire)
'Do you mean you've dragged us down here to help you with burn your stinking rubbish?' said Malfoy
'Righ'!' thundered Hagrid. 'Ten points from Slytherin for cheek!'
Harry and Ron [added: grinning broadly,] made thumbs up signs at Hagrid from behind Malfoy's back.
'This is supposed to be a Care of Magical Creatures class' said Malfoy, two pink patches burning on his white face, 'We're not supposed to be helping you with your gamekeeping duties! My parents don't send me here to learn how to do -
'Righ' - ten more points from Slytherin - an' five each from you two an' all!' Hagrid bellowed, pointing at Crabbe and Goyle, whose faces froze 'I'm - I'm a teacher, me! An' don' you forget it Malfoy!'
'Blimey,' said Dean Thomas, quitely from behind Harry

This lesson still happens in the published book, just off-screen, and thus we don't see any points deducted.

Lessons started again next day. The last thing anyone felt like doing was spending two hours in the grounds on a raw January morning, but Hagrid had provided a bonfire full of salamanders for their enjoyment, and they spent an unusually good lesson collecting dry wood and leaves to keep the fire blazing, while the flame-loving lizards scampered up and down the crumbling, white-hot logs. The first Divination lesson of the new term was much less fun; Professor Trelawney was now teaching them palmistry, and she lost no time in informing Harry that he had the shortest life-lines she had ever seen.
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - Chapter 12 - "The Patronus"

I don't believe anything is ever said to imply that the lesson did not go according to the discarded draft version, so perhaps it can still be counted.

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    The source for the date and location of the photo is personal communication with the photographer.
    – ibid
    Commented Jan 14 at 5:20
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    For those keeping count, the final tally is +10 Gryffindor, -30 Slytherin.
    – ibid
    Commented Jan 14 at 5:55
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    If you can identify the exact date of the photo based on the newspaper that the guy in the background is reading, I'll give you a bounty.
    – Rand al'Thor
    Commented Jan 14 at 21:47
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    @Randal'Thor - I'm expecting a large bounty.
    – ibid
    Commented Jan 14 at 23:49
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    @ibid I think she deliberately chose this page because it was already edited out of any drafts she had already submitted. It means that she does not provide any accidental spoilers (imagine if she used one of the pages from the Shrieking Shack exposition dumps and everyone already knew that Ron's pet rat REDACTED), but it also means that anyone who does end up reading the page gets a nice little easter egg.
    – Nzall
    Commented Jan 15 at 13:58

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