Nekron is "Lord of the Unliving" and the ruler of a dimension where souls go after they die, although this is clarified as "before their final judgment". If Death of the Endless is also present in the DC Comics (or Detective Comics Comics) Universe, how is her/his/its dominion over death (and her/his/its task of shepherding the dead) reconciled with Nekron's powers, existence, dimension and his Black Lantern Corps?

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Really, Sandman can be considered 99% distinct from the DC Universe. The characters from Sandman don't interact on any significant level with the 'traditional' DC heroes, and Gaiman's characters just don't show up in DC's books.

That said, Nekron is nothing to Death. Death isn't a character, Death is an idea. The last idea, possibly. She doesn't have motives, she doesn't have desires, she doesn't have dreams. She just ferries.

Nekron's Black Lanterns seem to be undead. Death doesn't care about undeath. Death doesn't care if you are resurrected. Death doesn't fight Nekron for souls, howling when they are rent from it's grasp and forced into corpses. Death simply waits.

Death has taken Gods, lost gods, forgotten gods, new gods. Death will take Superman, Batman, Zeus, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Nekron, Desire, Dream, and, finally, when the Universe has wound down, Death.

Death is an idea, a concept, an irresistible force which came into being the instant the first form of life did. Nekron is nothing. And at the End, Death will "put the chairs on the tables and turn out the lights as [she] leaves." Nekron will have been completely forgotten, irregardless of his powers, his Corps, or his dimension.

  • Are you saying he is roughly on par with, say, the Sandman's Lucifer? Commented Feb 26, 2013 at 4:23
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    I wouldn't try bringing Gaiman's Christian figures into the mix, since it's even more muddled than the rest. In this confused cosmology, Zeus and Bast coexist with Thor, but the angels, and consequentially Lucifer as well, are treated differently, as if they were on some level of creation deeper, or higher. But still. The Endless are even deeper. Maybe. Commented Feb 26, 2013 at 5:38
  • I agree Sandman is separate from most of DC, but how is Death of the Endless not a character (as well as an idea, I suppose)? She's as much a character as Morpheus is. She's his sister, she cares about people, she's shown to have feelings.
    – Andres F.
    Commented Jan 27, 2019 at 0:06
  • @AndresF. - When I saw that, I am speaking relative to Nekron. And the 'character' we see when Death is 'on screen' isn't really Death. It's one avatar of hers, there to ferry a soul. At any given moment, Death has as many active avatars as needed.
    – Jeff
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 15:02
  • I'd say the avatar IS a character. Anyway, she doesn't always appear to ferry souls, does she? Sometimes she just wants to talk with one of her siblings, for example. Death of the Endless definitely has feelings and cares about stuff.
    – Andres F.
    Commented Jan 28, 2019 at 16:17

In the DC Universe, the two entities Death and Nekron have very little to do with each other beyond both being related to the conceptual idea of death and dying and possibly having an existence that predates the current Universe. Curiously enough, both ARE concerned with Death, but their outlook on the implementation of that outlook is their primary difference.

As far as their relationship? Things die. Death sees to it. They eventually get shepherded to their respective afterlife. Those who find themselves in-between their paradise or punishment in the afterlife, find themselves hosted by Nekron in a purgatory (it is unclear if there is more than one purgatory) until such time as they move on. Purgatory was never meant to be a permanent condition. Though Nekron is the master of this Land, his control of it does not seem to disturb Death of the Endless, so he must be serving a purpose beyond mortal understanding, perhaps without even realizing it.

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Death of the Endless

  • Death is concerned with...well, death and all that entails. Death a member of the powerful beings called the Endless, one of the primal forces of the Universe is completely content to let the Universe END at its own natural rate.

Neil Gaiman (the character's creator) feels She is the most powerful of all of the known incarnations of Death manifested in the DC Universe. Other known incarnations include Nekron and the Black Racer of the New Gods.

  • She is content to let things die at their appointed time and not before. She is not obsessed with things living or dying in any particular way and rarely interferes with the natural order of things.

  • Death is an integral part of this Universe coming into existence as the Universe did. There is a part of Death which may actually predate the current Universe and will exist after this universe is gone. She has even admitted she will be turning up the chairs and turning out the lights after the Universe has ended.

It is unclear whether Death can die. Though she has incredible magical might and some level of omniscience, she is without fear, strangely moral, and despite this remains the most cheerful member of the Endless.

Nekron, Lord of the Unliving

Nekron is more concerned with subverting death, returning the dead to a semblance of life, so he may further his goal of bringing death to the Universe at large, the sooner, the better. No one knows his origin or how he came to become lord of the Land of the Unliving.

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Geoff Johns: All you need to know about Nekron is that he is one of the most powerful dark forces in the universe… if not the most powerful. He is the darkness. He's someone I've wanted to explore for a while. But you'll learn more and more about him as the series goes on. It'll all become clear as you read more… but he's not really a villain. Nekron is existence. --Nekron is the first villain the Guardian attempted to imprison

  • Nekron exists and can only exist OUTSIDE of our Universe in a realm between Heaven and Hell, a waiting area for souls as they transmigrate from the realm of the living.

"...Toward the timeless domain of my most majestic master-- Nekron, Lord of the Unliving. And there in that place that is neither Heaven nor Hell, that place which lies somewhere between eternal peace and eternal punishment as souls beyond numbering stood waiting with infinite patience, my master sensed the coming of Krona and he knew that it was good."

  • Nekron can only exist within our universe if he has a host or avatar to inhabit. While inhabiting that avatar, he wields fantastic power but can be sent home if his avatar is destroyed.
  • He was revealed as the mastermind behind the Black Lantern Corps and the Blackest Night event, Nekron actually attempted to destroy all of the ring-wielders, the Oans and the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum including the White Light of Life itself.

Death of the Endless is THE primal force, idea, embodiment, etc. of death as a whole. She is immortal and omipotent.

Nekron is Lord of the Unliving and is immortal (in a sense) but they never listed him as an omnipotent. He is just really, really, really, really powerful. BUT there has been some hints where he is not only a part of the darkness, but is perhaps THE darkness itself.

With that in mind, both beings are idealistic creations of Death and The Darkness itself. Both exist as manifestations of an idea of something beyond human or universal understanding. Just as death will live on as an incarnation of the universe deminishes, the darkness will continue to live on as well.

HOWEVER, it is also said that Nekron is an embodiment of Death and Lord of the Unliving. With this in mind, Nekron could possibly be a part of Death of the Endless. Little is known about Nekron's origin and that plays a huge part in this conversation.


This is a mistake in conception, largely based on our modern conception of death in general

Nekron and The Entity both are related to "life", but not "life". Let's see if I can explain.

Let's say we have a world where on one side it is black and on the other side it is white. Death would be the ruler of the black side of that world and simply makes sure that people from the white side that should be on the black side are taken there.

Nekron and the Entity on the other hand don't care at all about that and are more interested in only the white side.

The Entity's ability is to animate the unliving by imbueing it with the characteristics of life which we would associate that more with will or spirit or thought... or perhaps the best way to put it, Sentience. Nekron, on the other hand, thrives on and has the ability to control things with no sentience.

If we were to look at this in a more philosophical sense. The way we can break this down is Nekron's doman is "matter" or "body". Death's domain is "spirit", "ki", or "soul". The Entity's domain would be "Mind" or "Sentience".

How they relate to each other though beyond that we can't say, Death may be a tier 1 existence, The Entity a tier 3, and Nekron a tier 6 or any other variation of tiers. We don't know.

In terms of Egyption Mythology Death would be related to the domain of the "Ka", "Ba", and "Name". The Entity would deal with the domain of "The Heart", Nekron would deal with the domain of "The Body".

  • What do you mean by "tiers"?
    – Adamant
    Commented Aug 3, 2016 at 6:23
  • @Adamant Tier as in those of higher tier are more powerful generally than those of lower tier. sometimes that means a larger domain while other times it means just flat out more powerful. In discworld Azrael is on a higher tier of "death" than DEATH which is on a higher tier than Death of Rats.
    – Durakken
    Commented Aug 3, 2016 at 13:27

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