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When I read this question, I had another question: Why can the dead men of Dunharrow kill the corsairs from the south if they are immaterial ghost?

  • I changed my post to only the corsairs. The dead men of Dunharrow did not go to Minas Tirith in the book, that was something else made up by Jackson in the movie. – jacen.garriss May 10 '13 at 18:57
  • Like @Sconi says, the best answer of course is that they don't :) The Oathbreaker's power was psychological terror; it was only Peter Jackson who souped this up into the ability to inflict physical harm. – Andres F. May 10 '13 at 23:45
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Gimli (and Legolas) described what happened in Chapter 9 of ROTK (bolded text mine):

And there men of Lamedon contested the fords with fell folk of Umbar and Harad who had sailed up the river. But defenders and foes alike gave up the battle and fled when we came, crying out that the King of the Dead was upon them. ...

... and Gimli continued:

... There at Pelargir lay the main fleet of Umbar, fifty great ships and smaller vessels beyond count. Many of those that we pursued had reached the havens before us, and brought their fear with them; and some of the ships had put off, seeking to escape down the River or to reach the far shore; and many of the smaller craft were ablaze. But the Haradrim, being now driven to the brink, turned at bay, and they were fierce in despair; and they laughed when they looked on us, for they were a great army still.

'But Aragorn halted and cried with a great voice: "Now come! By the Black Stone I call you! " And suddenly the Shadow Host that had hung back at the last came up like a grey tide, sweeping all away before it. Faint cries I heard, and dim horns blowing, and a murmur as of countless far voices: it was like the echo of some forgotten battle in the Dark Years long ago. Pale swords were drawn; but I know not whether their blades would still bite, for the Dead needed no longer any weapon but fear. None would withstand them. 'To every ship they came that was drawn up, and then they passed over the water to those that were anchored; and all the mariners were filled with a madness of terror and leaped overboard, save the slaves chained to the oars.

As you can see, their weapon we fear and terror, nothing physical.

And of course, they then were released by Aragorn, well before Jackson-versioned appearance at Minas Tirith. As Gimli continues the story of Pelagrir battle:

Then he [Aragorn] let sound a great concourse of trumpets taken from the enemy; and the Shadow Host withdrew to the shore. There they stood silent, hardly to be seen, save for a red gleam in their eyes that caught the glare of the ships that were burning. And Aragorn spoke in a loud voice to the Dead Men, crying: ' "Hear now the words of the Heir of Isildur! Your oath is fulfilled. Go back and trouble not the valleys ever again! Depart and be at rest! " 'And thereupon the King of the Dead stood out before the host and broke his spear and cast it down. Then he bowed low and turned away; and swiftly the whole grey host drew off and vanished like a mist that is driven back by a sudden wind; and it seemed to me that I awoke from a dream.

  • well done on the quotes. I will take this as the correct and best answer. – jacen.garriss May 11 '13 at 1:45
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    @jacen.garriss - Thanks! Sconi's answer was just as correct, just not as well quoted :) – DVK-on-Ahch-To May 11 '13 at 1:48
  • One of the hazards of posting at work without a copy of the book in front of me. :) (incidentally, is there a way to link these accounts back together? I wasn't paying attention when I posted initially, thought using the same email would do it for me.) – Sconibulus May 11 '13 at 15:20
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    @Sconibulus You seem to have split accounts. You can go to this page and request that the team merge them back together. – Kevin May 11 '13 at 17:26
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As I recall from the books, they were not able to kill anyone, but their presence inspired fear in the corsairs, who abandoned their ship. They took no part in the battle of Minas Tirith in those books, in fact, the battle ended when the Corsair ships unfolded the Aragorn's banner.

  • If so then where did these fearful sailors go? Did they take their own life? Where they killed by Aragorn and others in the Western part of Gondor? – jacen.garriss May 10 '13 at 19:01
  • I would need to look at the books for quotes, but I believe they fled Eastward, and weren't mentioned again. I also have a recollection of Dol Amroth sending troops to Minas Tirith's aid on the ships Aragorn took, so they may have been involved in the Corsair's rout. – Sconibulus May 10 '13 at 20:35
  • @Sconi The part about Dol Amroth is true. – mort May 10 '13 at 21:43

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