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At the dreamlike end of The Black Hole, Reinhardt fuses with the robot Maximillian, appearing to be trapped inside him like a gibbet. What does this mean?

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  • Gibbet = early guillotine... – HorusKol Jun 6 '13 at 14:24
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    A gibbet is a body-shaped metal cage, for live gibbeting or display of bodies. – johntait.org Jun 6 '13 at 14:44
  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbet < it appears to be a general word for any instrument of execution (including cages, guillotines, axe blocks, etc) - something new and unexpected that I've learned – HorusKol Jun 6 '13 at 22:44
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    Ahhh, this was one of my favorite movies as a kid... and while it's still fun, to watch it now makes me cringe at the bad science! LOL – eidylon Jan 29 '14 at 7:23
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    The path of man and machine merge beyond the boundaries of time and space. Comparing max to a darth lord it appears the he and the good doctor took their chosen path on the way to the force. – user41652 Feb 9 '15 at 18:58
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In the novelisation of the book (by Alan Dean Foster) there's no mention of the ultimate fate of Reinhardt beyond his death

"Reinhardt’s eyes bulged from sudden, savage decompression as he and the tower were thrown off into space. From decompression of flesh, from decompression of dream"

however we do see the fate of the crew of the Cygnus as they merge consciousnesses to form a gestalt entity

"Kate was Kate; Charlie, Charlie, and Dan Holland still Dan Holland. Even Vincent was there. They were themselves … and yet something strange and new, a galactic sea change that produced all the above and a new unified mindthing that was KateCharlieDanVincent also. Dimly they/it perceived the final annihilation of a minuscule agglutination of refined masses—the Palomino. It was gone, lost in an infinite brightness. They/it remained, content and infinite now as the white hole itself"

It's therefore likely that the final vision in the film (of Reinhardt's eyes within Maximillian's exoskeleton) is that they've also joined their consciousnesses to form a single thought-based entity rather than the more literal interpretation of him using Max's outer shell as a makeshift spacesuit.

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    As seen at 1:35 in youtube.com/watch?v=nFv9ZRAqG1s the depiction of "hell" in the movie was fairly traditional and Dante-esque, complete with robed figures walking around in rows on paths surrounded by fire. So while I agree Reinhardt wasn't using the shell as a makeshift spacesuit, I think the intention may have been that whatever "Devil" assigns punishments in hell, being sealed inside Max (and maybe merged on some mental level too, as you say) may have been the punishment given to Reinhardt. – Hypnosifl Jul 19 '14 at 14:44
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    It's hell for both Reinhardt AND Max. Reinhardt's hell is to be a thinking, feeling, HUMAN mind forced into an unfeeling, purely logical robotic prison for eternity. Maimillian's hell? An unfeeling, coldly logical robotic mind forced to FEEL a human's terror, pain and horror - forever. – Joe L. Jul 19 '14 at 15:55
  • It definitely seems like an intentional depiction of hell, like a proto-event horizon. The scenes looks like a strange combination of 2001 sci-fi imagery with christian-esque religious imagery. – Mark Rogers Feb 10 '15 at 2:37
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IIRC, the end of the movie was like a trip through hell, purgatory, heaven etc.

They fused because they are both the same, they are both villains (in Hell) and to borrow a phrase from another movie, "Evil always finds its truest form."

And I want to say that Max had a copy of the doctor's brain which is another reason why they are as one in Hell.
And yes, that could be seen as the doctor's punishment to be trapped inside a gibbet in hell.

You can also see what I think is the crew of the Cygnus below Max and the doctor on the stone bridge.

The religious and metaphysical themes are confirmed on Wikipedia.

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As the movie earlier mentions that Reinhardt had murdered Kate's father, and he had used the crew to create his zombie crew, I alway got the idea that he had used Kate's father to create Maximillian, and he eyes you see inside Max's face were actually those of Kate's Father, as he finally gets his revenge on Reinhardt.

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  • Ha, so I'm not the only one. This was one of the nightmares of my childhood, the father-turned-monster who was set to chase his own child. Still, as a grown-up I prefer the metaphysical interpretation from the other answers (especially since this helps to exorcise that ghastly image from my mind). – Eike Pierstorff Feb 9 '15 at 19:14
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I just watched it last night. I think the Hellscape is actually the wreckage of the Cygnus, trapped forever somewhere near the event horizon of the black hole, and Reinhardt merges with Maximillian because the law of physics have broken down in that place. It's horrible and poetic. That he's on a "mountaintop" while the demon shards of his crew shamble below suggests he's the eternal ruler of some private corner of hell.

Meanwhile, a white hole seems to open up in the midst of all that, and an angel guides the survivors of the Palomino's crew to a new part of the galaxy. What is the angel? Kate's father? God? And how will the humans survive without supplies in what might even be an entirely separate universe? I know it's supposed to be a a "good" ending for them but I worry for their safety.

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My impression from the end of the film was more that Reinhardt encountered Maximillian beyond the Black Hole, and put himself inside the robotic suit more for the purposes of an environmental suit. This is why we see Reinhardt's eyes through the visor of Maximillian's helmet.

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    I remember having this impression as well when I saw it as a kid, that he basically used Maximillian as a space suit of sorts. – gnovice Jun 6 '13 at 14:47
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    Reinhardt looks tired and scared in space. Max bears down on him then, after the merge, R looks around frantically from inside the suit ...in Hell. – johntait.org Jun 6 '13 at 23:22
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    I think you're being too literal. It doesn't seem likely he would have the time or ability to use Max as a makeshift spacesuit – Valorum Apr 17 '14 at 8:19
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The Dr. had asked Kate to protect him from Maximillian earlier in the movie, which I think was because he feared that it would eventually kill him. However, he wasn't afraid of the black hole which was deadly. So by merging with it, he was trapped with the object of his fear. This fate was worse than just death. His true punishment was becoming the kind of creature that he had turned his crew into... they were more robot than human. Now the Dr. is in the same kind of hell that he had trapped his crew into. This was compounded by the fact that he was trapped inside his own creation and trapped inside his greatest fear.

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    Is there any quotes or sources that show that the intention was to trap the Doctor in the same kind of hell his crew were trapped it? – Edlothiad Aug 22 '17 at 15:09
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Interesting. As a kid the idea that Maxmillian and Reinhardt merged into one escaped me but having watched the movie again I can see it. I would think, though, that the film makers could have used better optical effects to show them merge - this would have been technically possible at the time - but that might have been hitting it too hard on the nose. The ambiguous ending (morally and narratively) was one of the reasons the film impressed me so much despite the bad science as someone else here has posted.

The first time I watched the Black Hole I thought Maxmillian encountered and murdered Reinhardt at the end (Reinhardt having not yet died as the Cygnus collapsed) for what Reinhardt had done to him because, I also thought, Maxmillian was revealed at the end to be like the other drones and not a true robot like Vincent - a damaged person (possibly Kate's father as others have written) trapped by Reinhardt in a metal shell for Reinhardt's use; in Maxmillian's case, as an enforcer who did terrible things for a crazy man.

The darting, terrified eyes looking out from behind the red visor really struck me, at the time, as someone coming to terms with the hell they found themselves in as a result of what they'd done. It made it all the more poignant, and morally ambiguous that Reinhardt escapes this fate (especially if Maxmillian murdered him en route to hell) and the crew was left to suffer.

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  • Hi, welcome to SF&F! If your interpretation is correct, and Maximillian is a drone, then what happens to Reinhardt after they come together? – DavidW Apr 1 at 22:45
  • Thanks! Maximillian kills him ala Dr. Durant. On the Cygnus, Maxmillian demonstrated his contempt or at least disregard for Reinhardt when he leaves him to die after Reinhardt's crushed under the scaffolding. Later, when they encounter eachother in the void and Maxmillian sees Reinhardt is still alive, he takes the opportunity to finish him off. This notion always made Maxmillian all the more menacing to me. – Jeff Young Apr 3 at 2:51

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